I was just playing around and I know these are spots you will never see, but why does the solver give these weird solutions?


UTG open
UTG1 3-bet
UTG2 4-bet
LJ 5-bet
HJ 6-bet shove

CO folds 50% KK, AKs, AKo
CO calls high freq J5s, 45o, A6s, 33, 55

Or if CO folds on that setup, BU would FOLD ACES, but call stuff like 52o, 77, J6s 100%

Where is the logic there? Its MTT chip EV 100bb solutions. Is that just too complex setup and the GTO wiz charts are not advanced enough to give the right answers there yet or what.

I just want to know can I trust the preflop solutions on other realistic 4-bet/5-bet spots if it makes clear mistakes on more complex setups.

Do you realize how strong a cold 6 bet range would be? Like you said though never gonna see that configuration. Co folding aces but calling those junk hands does seem like a glitch though

Well, if the GTOwiz charts can be trusted, 9-handed LJ cold 5-bets extremely tight AA/KK/AKs only, but after that HJ can 6-bet shove wide. Is this theory right?

HJ cold 6-bet shove range:
AKo AKs JJ are folds
JTs, T8s, 87s, 85s, TT will shove ???

And after that CO can fold kings but call 27% having stuff like 54o, J5s, 55 at nearly 100% freq.

More realistic situation would be 100bb LJ cold 5-bet shove, but again in that situation HJ wants to then call 99, J5s, 64s, J9s. If it folds to BU it would fold KK but call 65s?
There is a lot of dead money in the pot because of the multiple raises but that still can't be right?

Oh and if folds back to the early raisers they all would just only call AA.

It's an error.

Whenever you are looking at any solution in GTOW (or any solver), make sure that the actions before actually happen at reasonable frequency. Solver is obviously putting main focus on the spots that happen the most often, all the BB defend vs single HJ open etc. so those will have very high accuraccy. If you click though some super 1 in billion action, then the solver just didnt bother simulating that situation really.

Same thing applies for postflop. Whenever you are analysing your hands, make sure that all your and yours opponent's actions before that happen often. If you are facing a cbet sizing that your opponent is doing 0,5 % of the time, then your reaction won't be very accurate. You can easily spot that by looking at EV of actions, because in these rare spots many hands will mix actions that have very different EV (obviously in perfect common sim EV of all mixed strategies has to be the same).