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Getting it in 3 way with AK - .50s Getting it in 3 way with AK - .50s

09-29-2009 , 05:23 PM
Just a couple of tough spots with AK, would appreciate anyones thoughts

1/ No reads on players

Poker Stars $6.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: t1765 M = 11.77
SB: t1645 M = 10.97
BB: t1335 M = 8.90
UTG: t1575 M = 10.50
UTG+1: t1289 M = 8.59
MP1: t2289 M = 15.26
Hero (MP2): t1355 M = 9.03
CO: t2247 M = 14.98

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is MP2 with A K
UTG calls t100, UTG+1 raises to t400, MP1 calls t400, Hero raises to t1355 all in, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls t889 all in, MP1 calls t955

Flop: (t4249) 4 4 J (3 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t4249) J (3 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t4249) 2 (3 players - 2 are all in)

2/ Button is a decent player

Poker Stars $6.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 6 players
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BB: t950 M = 4.22
UTG: t2868 M = 12.75
MP: t2070 M = 9.20
CO: t2937 M = 13.05
BTN: t3580 M = 15.91
Hero (SB): t1095 M = 4.87

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is SB with K A
UTG raises to t375, 2 folds, BTN raises to t3580 all in, 2 folds, UTG calls t2493 all in

Flop: (t5961) J 4 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t5961) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t5961) 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)
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09-29-2009 , 05:24 PM
Both standard imo.
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09-29-2009 , 05:31 PM
Thanks Castle.

I thought the first was standard enough, but the second ones gotta be close. Thats a big shove from the button, youve gotta put him on TT+ or AQs+ right? After a somewhat sus looking UTG raise. From what i worked out on wiz, hed need to be shoving AJo there, which doesnt seem at all likely...
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09-29-2009 , 05:39 PM
IDK, didn't notice we were so short in 2nd hand, calling there can't be bad if it is bad. Think it depends on your read of the initial raiser.
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09-29-2009 , 06:11 PM
im happy to get it in on the first hand with so much dead money in the pot.

second one im unsure about. the btn, which is a big stack and a decent player, is shoving into another big stack. youre so short but i dont think the btn will be shoving all that wide to warrant a call.
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09-29-2009 , 09:50 PM
The 2nd one looks close imo, I'd call cos it's soooted. Unless UTG is also a reg (which he may be, given the 375 raise size) you can prob assume BTN doesn't shove AA, and is unlikely to shove KK.
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09-30-2009 , 12:39 AM
Yeah i almost called cos it was suited. I made the flush too. Too bad the button had JJ for a full house...
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09-30-2009 , 01:11 AM
The first one is pretty standard with all the dead money

The second one i think is standard enough. If we were 1500+ i proly don't call, but considering we have less that 10BB i think that we need to call. I would run it in Wiz to be sure, but yea...
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09-30-2009 , 01:16 AM
Okay, just ran it, and saying that both player are reasonable, then you are good to call. It says that JJ+ and AKs. SO because it is sooted you call, but if they weren't then it isn't any good. The diff. is .44, and the edge. .08.

Also, if he isn't shoving AA or KK then it is even more and you can call 99+ and AKo
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09-30-2009 , 01:36 AM
I couldnt get it to be profitable on wiz without making the button shove AJo?
What sort of range have u got them on?
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09-30-2009 , 02:22 AM
1st hand is superstandard.

2nd hand is also a call due to our stack size. If we were deeper it would be read dependent, but given our situation in our tourney this is still a call. I expect to see TT-QQ from BTN as if he had AA or KK he would prob 3-bet instead of open shove. Also cuz u have AK, its more unlikely he has AA or KK.
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09-30-2009 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by soulsbyc
I couldnt get it to be profitable on wiz without making the button shove AJo?
What sort of range have u got them on?
i just used the standard ranges they gave, and then got more profitablilty when i removed AA and KK. (which i think is expected.)
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