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11-15-2022 , 01:57 PM

Justo

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 166

CO: 35.17 BB 13/10/0 over 30 hands
BTN: 31.96 BB
SB: 70.43 BB
Hero (BB): 37.27 BB
UTG: 14.43 BB
MP: 3.93 BB

6 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.25 BB) Hero has 6

fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (5.25 BB, 2 players) 2

Hero checks, CO bets 1.63 BB, Hero calls 1.63 BB

Turn: (8.51 BB, 2 players) A

Hero checks, CO bets 6.38 BB, Hero calls 6.38 BB

River: (21.26 BB, 2 players) T

Hero checks, CO bets 25.04 BB and is all-in, Hero ???

Flop : I considered check raising, but I wanted to be sure I keep all the Kx in.
(With AK and maybe KQ, he will stack off himself most of the time anyway).

River : I believe I messed up, but I'd like to know what you think first.

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11-15-2022 , 05:03 PM

Bubblebust

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Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 830

x/r flop,as you are way ahead of V's range and a good part of his range has to call. As played it sucks because you have no idea where you are at. Against a random live, I probably muck. But online medium stakes, probably sigh call. What are the stakes? Any ICM considerations?

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11-15-2022 , 10:00 PM

SteelBreeze

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Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 83

I think flop you could go either way, but your reasoning is off - he will always defend Kx vs a check-raise so keeping those in isn't a concern. You want to weigh up what will yield more EV - having him bluff/ catch up, or having him call down. It's close in theory, but player tendencies can help you decide one way or the other.

As played you got what you wanted slow playing! If you're wanting to fold here, you should have raised the flop, because you're essentially saying he's not value betting or bluffing wide enough. Pretty clear call here imo - he can just have worse for value even, and then bluffs of course.

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11-16-2022 , 06:29 AM

Justo

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 166

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Originally Posted by Bubblebust

x/rAgainst a random live, I probably muck. But online medium stakes, probably sigh call. What are the stakes? Any ICM considerations?

It's online low stakes, no ICM yet.
So a tight villain probably underbluffs, and we can exploit fold to such strong bets turn and river.

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Originally Posted by SteelBreeze

As played you got what you wanted slow playing! If you're wanting to fold here, you should have raised the flop.

Yeah, I realize now that slow playing against a player who probably underbluffs makes no sense at all.

For the record, I did call and he showed A6 for a better 2 pairs.

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11-16-2022 , 10:35 AM

kolotoure2.0

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 423

Imagine this is a call at equilibrium but in my experience at low stakes online this board is underbluffed and they aren't valuecutting themselves so you can exploitatively fold

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11-16-2022 , 03:17 PM

nath

the second coming of the second coming

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 68,675

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Originally Posted by Justo

Flop : I considered check raising, but I wanted to be sure I keep all the Kx in.

Kx is never folding to the check-raise anyway. At this depth it's probably not folding at any point, although the ace makes it a little trickier. But if you're worried about Kx folding to a check-raise here then you aren't check-raising enough.

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11-17-2022 , 06:34 AM

Justo

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 166

I actually xr flop a lot as a bluff ��

But probably not enough for value, you're right, I should save my silly slow-plays for specific villains who bluff too much.

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11-20-2022 , 01:18 PM

CuteRaven

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Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 169

I also would raise the flop. As played I'm not folding river unless I'm pretty sure villain is a nit (and some players might valuebet a worse hand like AQ even if it's a bit thin for this size).

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