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Originally Posted by Asjbaaaf
The key to finishing strong here is to call off vs all-ins very tight but to steal very wide. You don't want to be the one calling off, you want to be the one shoving or raise-folding. Under ICM, the value of lost chips is significantly higher than the value of gained chips, especially your last chip, which lets you pressure the tournament life and ladder opportunity of the other players.
I think these are both folds. At 15bb effective stacks as the chip leader with the ladder pressure on every other player, you can shove something like any pair, any broadway, any suited ace/strong offsuit ace, and any strong suited connector from any seat and be printing, not to mention all the raise/folds you can sneak through with complete garbage holdings. These stack-offs are probably close to the break-even point chip EV but are losing in $EV.
Bolding this for emphasis.
And agreed, both of these hands are folds. You can steal wide with decent blocker hands, and even 3-bet light with good blockers against villains you think will raise/fold, and even open shove in the way the above post recommends, but you should not be calling all-ins in marginal spots for big chunks of your stack. That's one of the worst things you can do at a final table.