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FD+gutshot OTF OOP, probably obvious, but... FD+gutshot OTF OOP, probably obvious, but...

10-02-2009 , 08:23 AM
Guys, I feel like I should play my draw aggressively but I'm not sure how exactly. If I just 3bet him OTF and he calls he would be pretty much potcommited (1300 left and 660 in the pot) woudn't he? And I feel like if he shoves instead I can't call it...

Or just shove myself and maximize fold equity? Doesn't it looks like a massive overbet here?


Full Tilt Poker $10 + $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t30/t60 Blinds - 9 players

UTG: t1620 M = 18
UTG+1: t3840 M = 42.67
UTG+2: t1430 M = 15.89
MP1: t1380 M = 15.33
MP2: t1620 M = 18
CO: t1830 M = 20.33
BTN: t1720 M = 19.11
Hero (SB): t2625 M = 29.17
BB: t1335 M = 14.83

Pre Flop: (t90) Hero is SB with 2 3
UTG calls t60, 6 folds, Hero calls t30, BB checks

Flop: (t180) 6 5 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets t80, Hero?
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10-02-2009 , 08:27 AM
it depends if UTG limps a lot, if he does, the best play is probably lead/ 3bet shove
if UTG is tight a limp UTG is uspect and you may just call the flop to hit
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10-02-2009 , 08:28 AM
these are the only suited connectors i fold preflop in such a case.

but as played betting out here should be a good line to start with.
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10-02-2009 , 09:15 AM
Isn't it a bit early in the hand & too deep to be worrying about getting people pot-committed already? Raise to 200 & see what he does. He might just go away. If he 3-bets it seems awful like like a 6 makes up most of his range, so see how much his 3-bet is & re-evaluate then.

The problem with your hand is that the board is paired, so you might not have as much equity as you think, or might have exactly one out.

Or if you wanted to do something a bit different & weird, you could call his bet, then lead out the flop if you miss your draw & hope he folds, or check if you hit & hope he keeps going.

I don't ever fold pre here with this hand in an un-raised pot with blinds this low. Leak?
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10-02-2009 , 09:22 AM
i dont mind completing pre.
raise flop
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10-02-2009 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JMurder3

I don't ever fold pre here with this hand in an un-raised pot with blinds this low. Leak?
you can make more straights with hands like 45s or 78s which is kinda obvious, your two pairs are less counterfitted etc.
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10-02-2009 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by furo
you can make more straights with hands like 45s or 78s which is kinda obvious, your two pairs are less counterfitted etc.
I'm not saying I'd not rather have 45s or 78s, but I like seeing flops & think that's where I have a big edge on my opponents. I'd actually almost rather be oop with a sneaky lil hand like this, and I'm only risking 30 chips for the chance of summin xcellent happening.

If I intended to spew off my $$$ with weird crap on the flop, then I agree this would be bad.
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10-04-2009 , 03:12 AM
OK guys thanks a lot. I agree that leading flop is prob the best option
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