So I guess the feedback has been all positive.

Addressed this in above post, but most of the clocks are now a lot shorter and finish more "reasonably" but we keep the great guarantees still.

IMO 9 handed 250bb poker is just the opposite of what PKO should be about. Every pot should be possible to get a bounty, and with 6max this encourages VPIP and aggression. I think in 3 years every PKO on every site will be 6max and 100bb maximum starting stacks, right now we offer both 8 and 6 handed, but I believe that will be the shift moving forward.

Really? Thanks, I did not even know that until now...
To be honest, I liked the former "steps-like" satellites ($1 to $5, $5 to $22 and so on) much more.

The feedback isn't useless. People are stating how they feel. The Party group seem very pleased with what they've accomplished and this shows a disconnect with the players with the most volume and the most knowledge.

i m not saying the feedback is useless. all feedback inherently has value. i think feedback phrased the way it has been over the last few pages creates a terrible environment in order for both sides to advance in the discussion.

What we have had over the past year hasn't been a discussion. What we've had is decisions been made and then players give feedback on those changes.

i d like to argue this thread still has been ages better than stars and many of the changes implemented on party have overall been positive for the growth of the site as compared to stars which to my knowledge has been aids both in the changes and the thread

yes i m a party shill but w/e i like seeing a site grow that isnt stars

but i get that its easy to just be focusing on the things one doesnt like.

negatives i see: leaderboard, duration of mtts, similarity of mtts, lack of smaller turbos/fast mtts between the big ones

positives i see: a sched thats full of mtts that are exciting that over time should attract more and more players from competitors

all the negatives i listed can be easily amended from what i understand

i d like to point out that this time last year party literally had 3 mtts/day that i even thought about playing, that was when i was playing 90-120 mtts per session. these days party volume exceeds stars volume regularly. yes i m a high volume reg so not exactly the player type one should focus on but i d count this as a massive progress regardless of the missteps taken along the way, wouldnt you?

There's been hundreds of constructive posts, suggestions and valid concerns. Pads has chosen to ignore every one except ones which support his own vision, leading to current nightmare of schedule. He has had no problem taking credit from some successes at MTT schedule (like pushing guaranteeds and some tournaments mostly removed quickly) but accepts no responsibility what so ever for his huge blunders. "Wait for Xth of Somemonth and you'll be surprised" is to most used line and makes us all always disappointed.

100+ runners and all tournaments made Hold'em PKO / r-e which should last 8+ hours (most even lot more) is great way to get rid of most recs and regs alike in the long term. Only reasons why schedule didn't really crash to have even greater overlays on it's first day was A) start of weekly 120k+ leaderboard promotions, B) excitement and C) lots of marketing.

Looks like today almost all 109+ buy-in events have their amount of re-entries changed from 1 -> 2. So much for "gathering raw data despite overlays".

@blakkman08 - I think a lot of people are frustrated by the <$55 offerings - there were a lot of nice $11/$22 vanilla mtts that got removed or turned into bounty punters .

if you reg all the $11/$22 reg speed mtts (including ko) from 14:00 - 21:00 you end up with $132 in buyins on a tuesday , seems like a colossal waste of time don't you think ?

BitB inside track to instant changes. #nothingtoseehere

Hmm this explains how Pads would be in Tel Aviv. BitB staking, the Israel-Palestine conflict, a suspiciously bad MTT schedule...

Look into it

I think this is definitely doable. But the $22 2k plo was never having a problem hitting 100 runners and the lower gtd ones were also always exceeding the gtd. Stars runs a $16.50 pko plo at around the same time as that $22 that typically gets about 300 runners and a $7 pko nlo8 that gets 2-300 as well. And I think your guys' job of creating schedules is incredibly hard, but the idea that you had multiple tournaments that were successful in that they were always meeting the guarantee and appealed to a particular group of players who might not even open the site otherwise (myself included here) seems very strange to me. Are those omaha tournaments cannibalizing other tournaments?

There were a lot of $1.1-$2.2 PLO/PLO8 MTTs with 100+ runners.
They suddenly removed all that. There was no announcement.

Partypoker, micro players are not laboratory rats. We are human beings.

There is no respect for players at all.
I do not want to play on sites that suddenly remove many MTTs without announcement.

Please. Please rethink your way of doing from fundamental.

lol, you didn't even have a look at your own numbers.

All $5.50 PLO8, $11 PLO8, $22 PLO had 100+ runners. Those mtts were beating the gtd 2-5 times.
Instead of growing them even further by raising the gtd and offering even higher stakes (as often demanded) you removed them by no reason whatsoever.

Much as I want a good plo schedule too, it doesn't help us to be wrong about the numbers. The $22 2k always got over 100 and occasionally the $1500 gtd would as well but typically only 1 of the 4 daily 22s was in his target range.

Obv, taking the game of Risk to new levels.

I was kidding.

Software has improved a ton thanks to Pads and others. Sunday sucked terribly (thats being mild as I continue to wait for refunds)--no blame other than bad servers and lack of oversight. Schedule was less than under whelming after all this hype.

Ok. That was the good, bad & ugly.

Future: keep tweaking it. Im sure you'll eventually get there

anyone been refunded for sunday yet?

I agree, but I still think there is demand for MTTs at each half hour. A *little* cannibalisation is not a bad thing if the volume people like me will bring by reducing other site's action in favor of Party outweighs it. I wanna play more Party.

Longterm I agree, but some things you have to try to grow. If they do not grow, you can scrap them, but if you don't try, it's bound to fail. You can't make shots you don't take.

Please also consider developing mixed games. They are an important part of offering the whole experience of poker to your players and you also ensure you're prepared for the possible future of poker.


All in all, I think you're doing a lot of things right and I'm officially a fanboy. I hope Party can overthrow the Amaya mayority within 5 years. You have a player in me, but I want to play more!

Edit: Oh, and it's completely unacceptable for refunds to take this long. Like, max.-priority-fix-right-away unacceptable. This is a PR disaster.

IMO the schedule is good. Agreed I'd like to see a few more things but I can just fire up few mtts on other sites to complement and all is good!

Why have all satellites been changed to 6-max all of a sudden? If target mtt is 6-max then fair enough but why make them ALL 6-max?? You've already managed to get your horrible 100k starting stack into all of them, is that not enough damage?

The power series leaderboard is great .... except it just rewards botters/ account sharers who play 24/7 ... Please sort this out. There were some great suggestions on this thread as to how to fix this easily and fairly

ps: no refunds here

probably they add something big soon. rep?

So much this!
Why you destroy something that worked? I bet that every ****ing PLO8 tournament this year had more then 100 runners.

nope

Any news someone about refunds?

Looking through lobby and FT seems to be reached around the 7 hour mark....that is progress