just want to add this to above

easy/obv proof that party is doing things wrong all over the place is that in time i post above post +screenshots( ~21h cet, monday) there were :
- 100k players on stars.com
- 50k players on stars.es (while when it was ring market only spain or france there were 10-20k = there are extra 20k-30k players from ROW/europe/rusia)
-and there were less then 15k players on party (there were like 11,5k)


just final sugestion about MTT schedule
Why dont you take pokerstars 2015-2016 schedule (before pkos) that most of the grinders loved and use that schedule as main/core MTT schedule... add some pkos, take out some of MTTs in that scedule that underperfomed or dont like and gg

Playing one of the vomiting KO monday right now from 2amCET

700K stack... Blind 7K 100bb from the start almost...
3$ bounties so freerolling already from the 2,2 buy ins....
Now it s that 3-4-5hr the most painfull and tilting..... everybody sit on its own stack and wait..... i though 6-max would help a bit but not really....

will be ITM for 4$ more in 1hr or semi final in 3hrs for 10 dols more.... unreal.....

The number of daily micro MTTs(~$5.5,excluding sat)
Partypoker: 40
Pokerstars.es: 200

.es has 3x-turbo,Rebuy,2R1A,zoom MTT, hyper turbo,etc...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Playing one of the vomiting KO monday right now from 2amCET

700K stack... Blind 7K 100bb from the start almost...
3$ bounties so freerolling already from the 2,2 buy ins....
Now it s that 3-4-5hr the most painfull and tilting..... everybody sit on its own stack and wait..... i though 6-max would help a bit but not really....

will be ITM for 4$ more in 1hr or semi final in 3hrs for 10 dols more.... unreal.....

And that s why for a long time they are scared to offer SATS cause they have a poor traffic.... but it s wrong, it would attract more players.... oooh boy
I think PP CEO has made a prop bet with BILL PERKINKS :
Crash your company in 2 weeks or less i give u 2 million dols haaha

Anything you do.. Just dont reduce PLO tournaments! Good PLO schedule is one of the best things in Partypoker, i love the fact that i can play a plo tournament nearly every hour! And theres always a nice player pool with 100-300 entries. I absolutely love the site and think its the best online poker site there is. Adding 6max NL tournaments was really really great improvement! Thank you for that, now i will play some 6max nl also, instead of just PLO. I was really getting sick of 8max pko turbo as the only format pretty much �� keep up the great work! Now there could be some rebuy addon tournaments aswell.

Great news for Patrick's stable and other HS friends.

This made me laugh

Can make any fancy schedule they want the underlying problem is there is not enough players to sustain a stars like schedule people are crying out for.

BUT LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

HELP I FELT OFF MY CHAIR!!!!!
DESPITE ALL THE PPL ASKING SATS !!!! THEY CUT THE SATS DOWN
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

We have to play a single donkament 50 cent once a day to get a 22$ ticket ? 1R1Addon LOL ?
Not even possible to use it on a 22$event ?
Then another donkament at 12CET to get a 33$ticket to target 215$ later ?

ARE YOU FAKING KIDDING !
the withdraw button is very very close....
RIP !

It s clear now, bcz possible overlay and not enough traffic everyday they reduce the amount of tourney so we all gathered together in a unique-boring-stupid- tourney per hour soup.....
RIP

When u play with fire ..............
DO U WANT WE BUY YOU THE UNIFORM ? OR HAVE YOU ALREADY STARTED CLEANING CARS !!!! all hidding now in their holes after the crap issued....damn

Man.. this is the most whiny thread I have ever seen.

This is a fair point but it does not explain why they have to make so many of the tournaments identical to each other without even a little bit of variety in the schedule.

Yes agree. We are not whining for bigger gtds we see that the player pool not enough .We want more variety. 5K gtd 22PKO in every 2hours change it and only in 4hours for example and add some other format in the 2nd hours etc add tournaments at :30 it is not problem if the guaranteed is not so big first.

Yep..

the sattelites were the best at party. pls put them back.

Really sad to see what used to be constructive thread turning into crying contest.

I see last changes as a small step forward. Problem is that expectations are too high.

+1 for reducing vast majority of MTTs to just 1 re-entry.

What I see as a biggest problem is that you turned daily schedule into specific formats basically for all tournaments. For example I dont enjoy PKOs as much as vanilla MTTs. Now you turned whole Monday into PKO and I am pretty sure this will be the day I will skip in future. But if you make just a daily special $215 100k GTD on Monday, I will hapilly open the client and will register all other tournaments in that time slot.

Same goes with Wednesday. What if someone doesnt like to play 6-max tournaments? You just simply giving him a message dont open a client on Wednesday.

There should be variety formats and buyins EVERY day, especially during peak time where every player can find his favorite MTT. He will open a client, because of his favorite tourney and he will be registering other tourneys in that time slot as well. That is the reason why PS have different time slots and starting times as :05 :10 :15 :20 :25 etc. If you bust The Big or Daily Special there you can fill your free space with whatever smaller tournament (turbo, hyper, 6max, etc...). That also force you to have open client during whole session.

And speaking of smaller fields tournaments, these are very important specially for recreational players! There is a lot of players who loves to play just smaller fields for obvious reasons. Variance, more deep runs, more final table appereance, higher chance to bink a tourney etc. Even here on 2p2 if someones goes for advice that he doesnt do well in MTTs, the first advice he get is to just play smaller fields to reduce variance, gaining confidence etc. You should welcome these players at your site.

One last thing i have on my mind. Why there is no rebuy 2x turbo MTTs already? Those were very popular, had a huge response during monster series and we still dont have it in daily schedule. It was very popular back than on PS before raking rebuys. I personally dont care about this format that much, but it is pretty much no brainer decision to put in daily schedule because of its popularity.

They are exactly 3 tournaments daily which are something else then NLH.

How can such big company, which is forever in the industry, spend millions on marketing can fail so big with something that should be their main business?

I mostly agree with everything you said. And regarding constructive discussion: Its really hard to have such a constructive discussion when people here saying suggestion for ages and party side dont hear and dont care.

For example i asked several times regarding the satellites ( because you are forced to play another step to 109$ and not any direct 22$ MTTs) : And i got respond : And im not only one who mentioned it. From my point of view party poker nowadays cares much more for HS players and only little bit if only for micro/lowstakes.

They have been saying to us and making promises regarding software and new schedule that it will be best in business. And after reading last few pages in this thread its hardly look like that.
I guess that people here can cry and be mad, but on the other hand they are capable of saying thats great job, great schedule and keep working hard party poker.. but tell me why nobody says that?

I know that its really hard to satisfy all players, but now the ratio of satisfied and unsatisfied players is strongly on the wrong side.

Has anyone playing in Bwin received refund??
And are they automatic or we have to write to support??

I was affected by disconnection too. Didn't heard of any refund so far...

Schedule is better than before, every tournament now has a prizepool worth playing for, specially the low stakes games.Before it was a **** load of $500 gtd rubbish, so this is a step in the right direction.
Im sure they have a plan to add more tournaments once the current schedule is beating gtds and the playerbase grows.

What i dont like is 2 ko themed days.1 is more than enough and they shouldnt be all 6 max.Its hard to multi table and majority of players prefer 8/9 handed.

The biggest problem of all for me is how long tournaments take to finish and it wont matter how good the schedule is till this issue is addressed, specially for micro/low tournaments.

I'd love to say that the schedule is good but I can't play any of the tournaments because of the length. How can you approve such a schedule? It's contradicting to me.

Good afternoon guys and girls.

Unfortunately I was on business in Tel Aviv and my laptop didn't have password for 2p2, but I've been following your comments don't worry, and please if I disappear for 2 days in the future don't be so scared.

Apologies again for Sunday, obviously nothing I could personally prevent, but its also important to me that a company I represent does everything in its power to limit this from happening again. Obviously you can't say that things won't ever happen, but I know the extra things being put in place to make it even more secure.

Thanks for everybody supporting yesterdays tournaments, the numbers were really fantastic and we're very happy that people have enjoyed the schedule from day 1. Of course any schedule we make will never be perfect for everybody and we will lose some players to other sites who offer certain things we don't and likewise we will gain players from other sites who prefer our product.

Few things to address.

1- We are not 10x bigger than we are!


"Originally Posted by Re8uZ View Post
- 100k players on stars.com
- 50k players on stars.es (while when it was ring market only spain or france there were 10-20k = there are extra 20k-30k players from ROW/europe/rusia)
-and there were less then 15k players on party (there were like 11,5k)

just final sugestion about MTT schedule
Why dont you take pokerstars 2015-2016 schedule (before pkos) that most of the grinders loved and use that schedule as main/core MTT schedule... add some pkos, take out some of MTTs in that scedule that underperfomed or dont like and gg"

- -

As you said, the site has 10x players we have, of course we can't run as many tournaments, we are very close to the guarantees in similar tournaments that run on the site, but of course when you have 15% of the players, you don't run a schedule for 10x the players you have.

We have made a schedule now that can really grow, we know how and when to grow it. Our guarantees are absolutely phenomenally big for the size of the site that we are. These tournaments now don't have much canabalisation (I'll get to PKO soon) and each tournament can organically grow and grow and grow. There is slots open in the schedule that a tournament can be added, in our opinion a tournament has to have over 100 runners, having some smaller tournaments complimenting the bigger tournaments will happen, it was just important to see a reaction to the schedule and see how the games will change.

For example now all low-medium games are getting clocks reduced. 10+ games have already been changed from 12 min clocks to 8-10 min clocks. We wanted to offer the big guarantees that are important to attract players to the site, people came and now we will reduce the clocks to what we believed was optimal and think players will love it and the tournaments again can grow and grow.

2- PKOs

1- The one part of the entire schedule that shows some cannablization is the bounty hunters on Mon/Fri/Sat, we wanted to leave them in on Monday to get data and then on Friday we will replace the bounty hunters with FASTS. FASTS are quicker tournaments that play amazing, the 9am FAST currently has 6 players left and 46bb average. Lets see how they do.

3- Different games like PLO/PLO8

Our opinion is that all tournaments should have 100+ runners.

Talking about us vs rivals

Winamax who I think is amazing site and do great things have as far as I can see 1 tournament/day with 100 runners+ in PLO and as far as I can see offer no daily PLO8? I think very few sites offer a big PLO/mixed schedule with 100+ runners, there is some $0.25 and $0.50 games. I think running a daily PLO and potentially PLO8 with a larger guarantee on a Sunday is something that is viable option, finding the right time slot for it once the schedule gets supplements will be strong consideration. Throwing things in and hoping

Looking forward to analysing the data over the next week. There won't be any big changes done over night with addition of games and the schedule will be set until Monday at least.

There will be exciting Monster Series news coming soon.

GL for the Big Tuesday.

this, its really cancerous to even try to read through this. could u guys not at least try to make constructive feedback? imagine u were in charge of building a product that gives competition to stars and then on the biggest and supposedly most knowledgeable forum about poker you get this avalanche of aids thrown ur way. make lists and give points tha tu think are important a bigger weight dont just throw this garbage around please