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Double Deuce: top two OTT vs aggro reg Double Deuce: top two OTT vs aggro reg

04-04-2011 , 12:08 PM
me and villain have quite a lot of history at this table, and he's basically **** on me every time we're been involved in a pot (if this is one of you guys, hud)

he's been really aggressive, and prob views me as bluffy/spazzy/likes to make moves.
history:
i raised his weak cbet on Axx after flatting pre, he 3b flop and i folded.
i 3b pre IP, he 4b and i folded.

he's running 22/19/3.00 fwiw. no reads on limper but it's the DD and he limped the button.

Full Tilt, 300/600 blinds, 75 ante No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8707802

seed89 (MP2): 23,695 (39.5 bb)
primcodene (MP3): 9,403 (15.7 bb)
drinkbleachPLZ (CO): 8,950 (14.9 bb)
cfvmc (BTN): 10,689 (17.8 bb)
DONT STAKE ME (SB): 48,222 (80.4 bb)
Hero (BB): 41,658 (69.4 bb)
doggy85 (UTG+1): 37,647 (62.7 bb)
steve_bev (UTG+2): 10,225 (17 bb)
TheMayorNYC (MP1): 19,130 (31.9 bb)

Preflop: (675) Hero is BB with 9 A
6 folds, cfvmc calls 600, DONT STAKE ME completes, Hero raises to 2,250, cfvmc folds, DONT STAKE ME calls 1,650

Flop: (5,775) K A 9 (2 players)
DONT STAKE ME checks, Hero bets 3,670, DONT STAKE ME calls 3,670

Turn: (13,115) 2 (2 players)
DONT STAKE ME checks, Hero
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04-04-2011 , 01:03 PM
as played and given your description of the villain i would def value bet the turn here
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04-04-2011 , 01:44 PM
Given the villain's aggression and his limp\call pre, you're ahead of his range. I estimate, using Flopzilla, villain has a flush about 8% of the time. Bet for value, expecting the villain to fold most of the time.
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04-04-2011 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by phos77
i raised his weak cbet on Axx after flatting pre, he 3b flop and i folded.
seems like a 5bet jam spot to me ainec. And I wouldn't c/r these flops vs that guy. 469hh-type are better.

6886/get it in
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04-04-2011 , 02:28 PM
I'd begin by betting and probably not folding
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04-04-2011 , 02:50 PM
desperado i dunno wtf you're talking about!

what kinds of hands could he be peeling flop with to c/s turn that we're doing well against? stuff like JT/QJ with a spade? would he c/s Ax?
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04-04-2011 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by phos77
desperado i dunno wtf you're talking about!

what kinds of hands could he be peeling flop with to c/s turn that we're doing well against? stuff like JT/QJ with a spade? would he c/s Ax?
wat r u talking about?

5bet him when he 3bet your c/r on Axx flop


and b/c now.
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04-04-2011 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by desperad0oo7
5bet him when he 3bet your c/r on Axx flop




also i can't believe you're so adamant about that hand when you don't know the stacks/sizing/board texture etc, and i never said it was a c/r.
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04-04-2011 , 03:06 PM
I am of the opinion that if you bet 7500 on the turn you are shoving 27K into 28K on the river.

don't think I would be folding turn if he c/r tho.
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04-04-2011 , 03:07 PM
thought he raised your c/r.

I don't need to know stack sizes for that
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04-04-2011 , 04:38 PM
If he's been really aggressive, I'm a little worried about the turn check when the spade hits. Coupled with his view of you as "bluffy/spazzy/likes to make moves", he could c/r here with our without a hand and really put you in a tough spot.

Given those dynamics, I'm checking the turn rather than value betting. I don't want to be bet off this hand, and I'm making a thin value bet on the river as long as it is not a spade. If he bets first on a non-spade river, I'm calling up to a little over 1/2 pot. If four spades on board, I'm out to a bet (unless its the A, of course).
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04-04-2011 , 04:42 PM
Against this player, I can't fathom doing anything besides bet/calling and jamming safe rivers.
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04-04-2011 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Keeper1125
Against this player, I can't fathom doing anything besides bet/calling and jamming safe rivers.
You're beating more of this player's hands than others, but the turn check sends up a flare. If he's as aggro as described, this just smells like he made his hand. Without a boat, I'm pot controlling as much as possible here, not jamming a river bet.
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