Its a sad day when 30 beers in 24 hours is something noteworthy....

Has a horse ever bought out of your stake in mu? What % would be reasonable to pay if u want to leave / backer wants to sell the horse?

Wut? Bad regs are what makes everything great

oh yeah, this is a bogan4life thread or something. And the only thing I know about you is that one time you talked **** to rundatgame and I was like "lol @ bogan4life talking **** on rdg." Please explain your thought process on talking **** to rdg

A player competent enough to find a backer for 180s isn't going to be -EV at the games... perhaps barely so (-5% ROI). The true fish are going to be the people who don't even know that backing exists.

Yeah, yeah, you're right, but you know that's not what I meant. I mean, if you aren't crushing bad regs these days, you just aren't making money. There are some mistakes I can count on every reg making that I can't count on a fish making (though they make plenty of other mistakes). Obv we still rely on fish, but if we want to make a profitable strat, we need to find something to beat that's a bit more consistent that fish.

****, keep forgetting this thread belongs to someone I've barely heard of

How much do you love me?

can u describe ur career/development as backer in detail? (looks like u heatered hard in the beginning? )


favourite beer?
favourite place u visited during ur travels?
how is LO in RL ? do u call him dad?

thanks for killing 180s @$$hole

Well i was still sober when that hand happened and to be fair I have not played a hand of poker sober in a very long time along with the fact it was a miss click.

The night with you and LostOstrich was a weird one mainly due to LO's love of sniffing feet and id have to say that I dont know what you mean by white powder but I dont think charlie was in the venue.

Silly man everyone knows Rowniwn doesnt wash and that he is also the best 15s player

0. Knocked back a couple in Austria due to not being able to walk and had one stolen off me by lilfish after 45 mins on the google translate

Well im banned from Crown Casino due to my love of smashing chairs over peoples heads but im always up for a beer round Aus Mil times <3

Thats pretty much me
Are you even 18 yet?
Why did i quit? Well those of you that know me would know I havnt been off skype at all since I started this business and when I was id be getting phone calls.

1 prime example of this id left a msg with my staking partners saying im spending the day with my daughter if its a must talk about thing you can call me. Sure enough I had 4 phone calls between 6am and 9am my time and my daughter getting very upset. When we went camping for the weekend (my daughter was 2 at the time) she screamed dadddy no take puter puter stay here I hate it daddy I hate it.

Following my trip around the world Its safe to say I came back a different man and I wasnt willing to do all the work under the current arrangement I had. That doesn't mean I have left staking for good (I still have about 8 or so horses playing 180s but no mtt'ers really) and i would still look at offers but it would have to be ****ing good for me to consider coming out of "retirement". Having a family is a lot of hard work, Staking is a lot of hard work and mixing the 2 isn't easy.

And yes tyty for refunding that buy in, I was in the middle of a coaching session with a player on the button and min 3bet your cut off raise and had just finished explaining the range you would be able to 4bet me with a 22ish bb stack when you show up with j5o or something along the lines. Thank god you said misclick otherwise that guy would have been thinking wtf is this guy on!

When you have a bunch of people playing the exact same ranges, folding to the exact same bets and using the exact same betting tells the games can be pretty easy. You have to remember anyone playing 180s for me is at the start of the process I put in place and have not yet learnt a lot of advanced level thinking but this is one of the first steps they learn to being able to pick up different game styles, tells etc. When you are moving people through the ranks id much prefer a game like it is now then those players all being different spaz bots. Sure the roi's might be a little lower then the past (but so are mtt rois, stt rois etc) but the games are softer due to being easy to read and understand for a newish player.

Well I tend to favour English/Irish players due to it being easier to coach people that can actually understand my stupid accent but I have had players from most country's and had success stories moving up players from 2s from all parts so Id give most people a chance if I saw talent.

And yes I always get an id/stars screen shot and contract

1) We never really had a big score which was kinda of annoying when you would message me with a sup on a Monday which I always knew that it ment someone had luckboxed the mil for you. Our biggest score was 95ishk by gbmantis in SCOOP. Most of our success came from weight of numbers and having a constant grind grind grind group going.

2) Oh about 3 times a week for the past year, as you know its not a easy life to live and it requires a lot of hard work.

3) When I started off running the stable we had around 5k and a heap of hopeless 2/180s guys (m1ghtyducks turned good tho) and Semesa1 and basically built of those guys adding in Laois Hammer, Rowniwn, Syker etc that allowed to add to the next level etc etc. In November of last year I got in an investor to make a move into mtts and had the 180 group and mtt group going for a while until it became to much and I focused on mtts.

4) Well im buying a daycare center atm for my fiancee so we will see how that goes and ill own dime some small guys and coach em up in 180s because I have a passion for that


5. Did Marc ask you to write that? Rowniwn is by far the best horse I have ever had, an amazing guy, a great player and a close friend.

6. Well I had the tcoop bet won until you luckboxed the main event!

7. I once made m1ghtyducks cry (sun) Well Im not sure if it was out of being angry at me or just disappointment in himself but after the 20th hour of coaching id giving him (a small upswing followed by another downswing) I told him he was not only wasting my time, his time but the time he could have spent with his children and well that made the lad a bit upset.

I was not known for holding back or giving the soft word.

8. Of course not I can just sweat all the guys that have gone from playing for me to being on your books instead!

9. You know that feeling when you turn on skype and you have 30 messages that you have to answer to and 1000's apps to look over? Yeah not having to worry about that is way better then any sweat you get.


10. Pffft you didnt even touch the surface brah when you have 1/3rd of the field on your books thats when you have killed the games.




I quit this time last year and I have a gimmick from time to time and I guess the thing I miss the most is the women writting ocker on one tit and man on the other.








When you do it 30 tabling 2s for youth suicide prevention charity it is yo

Thats a hard one as each players % is worth different to the next in a buy out.

He was talking about his 8bb skill edge while trying to do a chop with a ipoker sponsored pro hs hyper sng player....

lol love you, I don't even like you ****. You couldn't even keep up with me in Berlin. Sure I nearly feel a sleep at 9pm but a good sauna to get me back going and I was ready to party all night and here you are passing out on the dance floor at what 2am?

Having just said that one of the only guys I have won the 1 3x turbo for 11k last night and that makes me feel (sun) considering its someone I meet on my trip.

lets goo babby #TBO

Congrats on what you have achieved up to now ,very impressive.I hope it continues with what ever you go into in the future

From your $2 180 days when you started staking players how many people have helped you run your stable?(Partners ,coaches,investors)

What cut was you all on?

On your own and with no investors do you think you would of got any where close to where you are now?

If you had to sleep with dino or thegreat1 who you got? and why

I wouldn't say I heated hard it was more that I put in so many dam hours and chased so many dam horses that the stable built very quick. Id use the profit from the horses we had to add in more and more and it would leave the balance sheets to be at evens as the $ we made would keep getting re invested until the point where we had guys playing up to HSMTTs and there was really no point in growing.

When I first started it was all about coaching players myself (i like to think that im one of the more successful coachs around) but not just coaching how to play but also how to game select etc. I guess if you looked at my stats etc you wouldn't rate me as a player but those that know me would know my personal biggest issue is tilt and tilt control so those that can't do teach.

I made the move into mtts at first via Staking Rowniwn on a ridic deal in his favor that could go down as one of the best staking deals for both a player and a backer (in terms of what it did to my understanding of mtts, boost in bankroll and the help he gave to other horses) and then went all out when I partnered up with Jackziyang and Spathic who are both hyper regs. We grew that stable into what was seemed to be the "place to be" via creating a marketing plan and brand placement selling the coachs we used and the chances we gave to our players.

Fav beer would have to be a Pilsner i had in Czech or this Austria beer I had which I cant even remember the name of

Least fav was this beer in Holland (note that this is 4 weeks into a drinking bender and im worse for wear)

Best places I visited had to be Playa D due to the amazing people, Ireland due to the wild partys and Antwerp due to its pure beauty and storybooklike streets and of course



Oh and I call LO grandpa of course and a part of my stable (mtt's up to 55) was manged by Grandpa and called Grandpas nursery

I have had 2 major stables, the first stable with Gavin555 and Chavarov and the 2nd stable with Jack and Spathic ive also had side stables and roles with a few others that was more just a few mates chipping in some $ and backing some mates. One of the biggest success stories out of that is a still growing guy in Torino2000 that Rowniwn and I backed together.

I don't think I could have done a stable the sizes i have by myself or on my own money. I have had the chance to do it on my own and $ wise I could do it by myself but with a young family and a lot to lose if another blackfriday came down (esp with how the laws are looking in Australia) I am not willing to take that risk for my family and id prefer to give up a % of what I make in return for that safety net.

Pilsner was brewed in my home town until recently. . . in Canada (csb)

1. if you could do it again, what would you differently? Would you do it at all?
2. Is staking a good way to launch into business, or are the edges to thin if you have to start at the bottom.

Your a Legend

<3 you Bogan, kinda sad u didnt make it to Rosarito!

Life > poker.

Glad to hear your doing well mate

I think the only thing id change is my personal contract so that it was more long term gain then short term but hey I was able to buy a 2nd house and set my daughter up for life. Would I do it again? Well sure im currently living in the Study of my house even tho its a 4 bedroom and my fiancee isnt exactly talking to me (shes stone batcrazy and thinks family > money wtf amirite) it was a hell of a lot of work but im proud of what I have done.

For me it was always seen as a step toward business, I suffer from Bi Polar and was once a meth addict so having the faith in myself that I could run a business was not an easy thing. After a year of running the staking business I now have the faith in myself that I can do whatever I put my mind to so that was a good bonus of running the staking business. Very few people make money in staking and you need to dedicate your life to it but if you put the work in then you can make it.

Thank you to both of you, the kind words of advice by you guys along with gents like parker, dylan, mjw, richard, squee etc when I was taking that really big step forward was much needed and a key to myself growing the stable like I could.

Hopefully even if I enter my semi-retirement ill be able to help out as many people as I can.

Lets see sleeping with a 6'4 250lb black man vs

Biggest mistake staking wise?