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12-31-2023 , 02:58 PM
Not sure if this is the right place to put this, but do you ever report this? Looks super SUS imo.

https://play.acrpoker.eu/online-poke...a77d16df199da9
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12-31-2023 , 06:37 PM
I guess I would. But I wouldn't expect any decent results/decisions.

I would report stuff on party Poker free tournament satellites in order to qualify for a bigger tournament back in 2006 when whole tables weren't playing any hands so they would all qualify. They would also text that there should be no bets just fold preflop. If for some reason a new player would come to the table (like if players had been moved to balance tables and then the empty seat was filled) they would text chat so the new player wouldn't bet preflop. I was told that the website would look into it and they would get back to me like 30 minutes later that they couldn't prove anything which was ridiculous. If I had been part of management I would have removed the entire table from the tournament. All three times it happened.

Also there were bots playing in LHE cash games that had been clearly identified (like 13 different players having played more than hundreds of thousands of hands with basically identical stats). The websites claimed they were preventing the bots but clearly they weren't and they also profited from them of course.

These are just some of the reasons I stopped playing online.

The other was hearing that kids at college were sitting together in dorm hallways and playing poker online together. In cash games at the same table. Showing each other their cards and possibly doing stuff like your hand here. So are they doing it now in tournaments?

Also, the same person could be playing as two different people in the same tournament and then in a miraculous situation end up at the same table as themselves. Possibly more than just two. So I would tell the website about this hand that a guy folded on the river for like 600 chips after going almost all in for over 20,000 chips. Though I have to say I am a little surprised that the player to your left didn't just call the flop bet and the click back raise didn't come from the player on your right. But maybe they wanted your call.

I have to say though that something like that happened to me in a live tourney at FW many years ago though I was HU. A guy went almost all in on the river for over 10,000 chips and I went all in with the nuts for like 700 more chips and he folded which really surprised me. This was before he would have had to show his hand and he was obviously bluffing so maybe this was a bluff in your hand as well.

If they were cheating together to screw you I think player on the left wouldn't make a normal sized river bet or just check, guy on the right jams and guy on the left folds. So if it was cheating it was a way for guy on the left to ship chips to guy on the right regardless of you being in the hand. Though you being in the hand was worth an additional ~5,000 chips.
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12-31-2023 , 06:38 PM
wow that is super suspect. Hmm yes i think it would be smart to report but i think ACR doesnt care. I assume the folder was a robot which to me seems very common on ACR.

IDK ACR seems sketchy to me. My mtt graph and a lot of people i see (i saw yours is similar to mine)- just heading straight down almost after a certain time. IDK i just don't believe im a losing player and should win something sooner or later.

I'm prolly wrong but just think ACR is sketchy and don't trust all that is going on there. I'm sure ACR bad regs have nice sexy graphs while i actually study and cant win a flip late in a tourny lol. I understand variance but just think something is up at acr
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01-02-2024 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10
wow that is super suspect. Hmm yes i think it would be smart to report but i think ACR doesnt care. I assume the folder was a robot which to me seems very common on ACR.

IDK ACR seems sketchy to me. My mtt graph and a lot of people i see (i saw yours is similar to mine)- just heading straight down almost after a certain time. IDK i just don't believe im a losing player and should win something sooner or later.

I'm prolly wrong but just think ACR is sketchy and don't trust all that is going on there. I'm sure ACR bad regs have nice sexy graphs while i actually study and cant win a flip late in a tourny lol. I understand variance but just think something is up at acr
I still show a positive ROI on ACR -- but it is falling like a rock -- and some of the beats I keep taking are driving me crazy. It would be comforting to thinnk something is up -- more than just my bad play or variance -- but IDK.
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01-02-2024 , 01:48 PM
Pretty sure my graph goes down because I stopped playing regularly (So started playing worse) and had a big live score so I was mostly just shot taking on Sundays. Not sure how rife MTTs are with bots, but I am concerned with other things like stables/ghosting and data mining hands.
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01-02-2024 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubblebust
I still show a positive ROI on ACR -- but it is falling like a rock -- and some of the beats I keep taking are driving me crazy. It would be comforting to thinnk something is up -- more than just my bad play or variance -- but IDK.
Yea I’m kidding kinda. I just won the Sunday special lol so I guess maybe it’s just insane variance.

Idk I just find it odd after I withdraw a 5 fig sum a few years back- I run bad for a long time after. I know it’s variance but seems odd. I feel acr def has tough fields at $100+ level no
Doubt and playing only Sundays doesn’t help variance but I find the stuff that happens on acr like Persian shows is a little questionable.

I see it all the time. People bet and then fold to a raise they should never fold to. It happens to me in game but not as bad as Persian shows. Idk I feel a hell a lot of bots exist on acr that will do loony things like fold in a spot they never should fold.
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01-03-2024 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10
Yea I’m kidding kinda. I just won the Sunday special lol so I guess maybe it’s just insane variance.

Idk I just find it odd after I withdraw a 5 fig sum a few years back- I run bad for a long time after. I know it’s variance but seems odd. I feel acr def has tough fields at $100+ level no
Doubt and playing only Sundays doesn’t help variance but I find the stuff that happens on acr like Persian shows is a little questionable.

I see it all the time. People bet and then fold to a raise they should never fold to. It happens to me in game but not as bad as Persian shows. Idk I feel a hell a lot of bots exist on acr that will do loony things like fold in a spot they never should fold.
Congrats on the big score. Sunday Special 1st must have paid around $100k?
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01-03-2024 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubblebust
Congrats on the big score. Sunday Special 1st must have paid around $100k?
Lol nah it was very small. 16k. It was cool bc gtn was lowered due to acr problems. Gtn was 75k and I wanna say tourny got 66k in prize pool so some nice overlay

Idk what’s going on with acr. I think they had issues recently and lowered all gtns. It’s kinda annoying bc max cash out via check is 3k so I probably have to withdraw via Bitcoin. I might stop for year and just focus on live poker because I find ACR a little sketchy. I can see myself running like poop if I withdraw 17k also and keep firing on future weeks so I might take a break. I’ll be honest- I’m probably not +ev at $100 buyin+ and then throw in I only play Sundays and it’s a massive variance punt.

I’ve made a lot of nice runs lately this year on acr but a ton of just sigh losses in spots worth a lot of money- no question not playing perfect. I might post a hand from heads-up. Idk if people care but went into heads-up with a 80-20bb edge roughly. Guy got it to 80-20 his edge and I ran godly k3 Vs qq wins and then I just got A2ccin Vs KJo (40bb to 35bb) and somehow held! I found it odd bc I open A2, he 3!, I basically go all in and leave small behind and he jams. Not sure kjo is ever gold there for a call. At best you flip and then run into a ton of better hands with blocking from me so I didn’t really get it.
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01-04-2024 , 02:50 AM
I don't think it's likely to be suspicious. Could see the EP villain minraising an 8x hand here, shutting down when cold called, then turning his hand into a bluff on that runout.

And the stacks being as deep as they are suggest it's very early in the tournament, almost certainly still in late registration, so stack-dumping doesn't make much sense at this point either.

But, who knows, maybe you should report it anyway. I dunno what the bot situation is on ARC or whether they'll do anything about it, though.
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01-04-2024 , 11:38 AM
The Segurity team is on it

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01-04-2024 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
The Segurity team is on it

Dying laughing here.
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