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Which coaching site and which pro would you recommend for MTT ? Which coaching site and which pro would you recommend for MTT ?

09-12-2023 , 06:46 PM
Hi all, I am a former midstakes player, I played a $30 average from 2012 to 2016. After a long period without playing, I'm starting again today and I'm looking for websites and video coach to get back to good habits.
At the time, I was mainly following balugawhale, YugihoPro and Andrew Brokos on deucescracked and TPE. Which site and coach would you recommend today? Any particular series?
Sorry if I didn't post in the right section.
Thanks for your time.
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09-13-2023 , 05:11 PM
+1. I’m playing small stakes MTTs and am wondering what the best value site would be for MTT content on a budget if anybody wants to share.


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09-13-2023 , 10:08 PM
That Chance Kornuth guy seems pretty good.
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09-14-2023 , 09:19 AM
BBZ stuff is pretty good and cheap

I haven't seen CNC videos but from what I heard from my students and judging by their list of coaches, they should have some very good content (but more costly).

RIO probably still has some decent new content. I've seen Patrik Brooks making videos for them too and that is definitely a top crusher.

Avoid PokerCoaching and RaiseYourEdge.
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09-14-2023 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MTT DB Review
BBZ stuff is pretty good and cheap

I haven't seen CNC videos but from what I heard from my students and judging by their list of coaches, they should have some very good content (but more costly).

RIO probably still has some decent new content. I've seen Patrik Brooks making videos for them too and that is definitely a top crusher.

Avoid PokerCoaching and RaiseYourEdge.
Thanks for the advice, I'll look into it.
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09-14-2023 , 06:19 PM
BBZ for sure
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09-14-2023 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MTT DB Review
BBZ stuff is pretty good and cheap

I haven't seen CNC videos but from what I heard from my students and judging by their list of coaches, they should have some very good content (but more costly).

RIO probably still has some decent new content. I've seen Patrik Brooks making videos for them too and that is definitely a top crusher.

Avoid PokerCoaching and RaiseYourEdge.
Can you comment some more about why to avoid those two at the end?
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09-23-2023 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
Can you comment some more about why to avoid those two at the end?
I base that on some content I have seen from these sites and also on my clients. I have coached hundreds of players and in the beginning of the session I always ask them about their study routine - what tools, solvers, coaching sites etc. they use to study poker. And users of these sites aren't usually that good. That might not be so bad for PokerCoaching because it is not that expensive, but I've had way too many players who were shockingly clueless about some basic poker concepts after buying a $1k RYE masterclass, which really doesn't speak well about it considering the high price.

On the other hand if I were to make some big excel sheet with average stakes and ROI or BB winrate compared to coaching sites used by my clients, CNC would surely be on top. It is not as well known as the other sites, but most of the users tend to be winning regs.


Another good example of why site like BBZ is more honest than something like RYE is that BBZ coaches have no problems using different tools like GTO Wizard or DTO (which could be considered partly competition to their product) because they know they have absolutely no chance in competiting with those tools in the stuff those tools focus on. So instead they focus in explaining strategies in more human to human style, which is definitely very useful thing, as solver outputs can be very hard to understand for less experienced players. RYE on the other hand will try as hard as possible to keep you in their system, using their pairrd tool, putting way too much emphasis on how you should avoid GTO and play exploitivately (while giving you wrong examples of exploits at the same time).

Last edited by MTT DB Review; 09-23-2023 at 07:39 PM.
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09-24-2023 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by MTT DB Review
I base that on some content I have seen from these sites and also on my clients. I have coached hundreds of players and in the beginning of the session I always ask them about their study routine - what tools, solvers, coaching sites etc. they use to study poker. And users of these sites aren't usually that good. That might not be so bad for PokerCoaching because it is not that expensive, but I've had way too many players who were shockingly clueless about some basic poker concepts after buying a $1k RYE masterclass, which really doesn't speak well about it considering the high price.

On the other hand if I were to make some big excel sheet with average stakes and ROI or BB winrate compared to coaching sites used by my clients, CNC would surely be on top. It is not as well known as the other sites, but most of the users tend to be winning regs.


Another good example of why site like BBZ is more honest than something like RYE is that BBZ coaches have no problems using different tools like GTO Wizard or DTO (which could be considered partly competition to their product) because they know they have absolutely no chance in competiting with those tools in the stuff those tools focus on. So instead they focus in explaining strategies in more human to human style, which is definitely very useful thing, as solver outputs can be very hard to understand for less experienced players. RYE on the other hand will try as hard as possible to keep you in their system, using their pairrd tool, putting way too much emphasis on how you should avoid GTO and play exploitivately (while giving you wrong examples of exploits at the same time).
Thanks for the explanation.

Yeah RYE was really strict about using their tools to the point it was really annoying.

Like they wouldn't even look at your hand history if you didn't put it through their hand replayer which I found to be a pita.
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