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Originally Posted by jjjou812
1. While the bb ante speeds up live play, it is a misnomer to call it an ante. An ante has a specific meaning that the bb ante does not meet.
2. My incentive to recapture 1/8th a blind from the various positions is less than recapturing 1bb from the best position preflop and increases with less players in the hand.
3. I don’t accept strategically that I should not consider a double bb as a halving of my M and effect my theory of play based on stack size.
4. I accept that the above may not be mathematically correct.
5. I have played some ante tournament where the dead money antes exceeded the bb and sb together.
Rick, I think your disbelief in ICM is more dangerous than my bb ante disbelief….lol.
See, I think the issue here is that you see the ante and BB ante as "your money." Once it's in the ante, I consider it gone. Doesn't matter if I win it from the BB or from some other position, it's the same amount of chips, and once they're in the ante I no longer have claim to them unless I win the pot.
However, point 5 is an interesting strategic discussion, because I've seen and played a few low-blind heavy-ante tournaments online. I think for those I actually sort of think back to the concept of M-- or, more accurately, when the ante is so much bigger than the blinds rather than the standard roughly 1BB in total, I adjust my ranges and bet sizes based on the pot size preflop. (With a BB ante, one orbit around the table-- and one pot before anyone VPIPs-- is 2.5 BB. So I adjust my play as though the pot size before VPIP is 2.5 BB, rather than playing strictly to the BB size.