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Originally Posted by forceonature
I'm a bit confused.
I get that most wouldn't add a calling range here and just have a shove-fold range. I may not fully agree, but I get what you are saying.
But apparently it is also worth adding an unbalanced weak hand calling range.
This would implicate folding to any raise to me. Wouldn't that be just plain silly?
Suggest that AA is the only strong hand I would like to create a calling range with, wouldn't I balance it with my weakest non-pair hands? e.g. AA and KQs, which equals 4 strong and 4 weak hands)? Or is there actually a reason to implement a weak calling range with lower pairs (99-TT-JJ) ? Personally I don't see it (if ever you wanted to make those pairs vulnerable, that feels like the way to go, I'd rather shove those). But maybe someone that agrees with this strategy could explain ?
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That being said, the longer I think about the hand, the better I like the QQ KK AA + weak hands calling range as it opens up the possibility to trap the triggerhappy opponents that do not even have a clue about what is happening here. Plus free option to fold those KQs or whatever weak range we create in case of a repop.
You have not convinced me of shoving the hand in order to prevnt those A highs from calling. I'll gladly take that risk as I think that risk + A board is less important than the chance of a triggerhappy opponent repopping a worse hand at this table. Which is, of course key to decide to widen up the calling range. biggest disadvantage I can see is me folding KQs to a triggerhappy 99. Not yet convinced.
It only implicates that to you not to the players you are playing against (that you will fold to a massive raise). They won't know whether or not you have strong hands in your calling range.
QQ would never be in my calling range (if I had one). You can get called by two or more players considering you are in EP by hands like AXs and KXs and or AJ/AT/KQ/KJ/KT and if an A or K hits the flop you can be behind whereas a jam with QQ gets all of those hands to fold.
Personally I do have AA in my calling range vs UTG or UTG+1 when they make a standard open. But there has to be more than one player behind who has shown massive aggression or looks like a young GTO/Solver and the opener has to be potentially opening wide there as well.
I prefer to jam AA and KK here but if I were in late position I would feel much better about those being in a calling range. Still with KK I much prefer not to be 3 or 4 way post flop.
For the record AA has 6 combos and KQs has 4 combos.