6 max, 5 at table. 5 players off the 120 player bubble (pays €7.70 from €5 buyin).

Hero has M10 vs aggro utg raiser with M32.

Utg has raised 2xbb and hero shoves from bb with 4h4d. Utg calls and shows A2os.

I checked the stats of villain, and they have decent winnings on scope. This is still classed as a bad call with A2os, right?
I wouldn't be calling in villains position with anything less than A10s AJos or 77 vs a player with regular stats.

By my calculations villain is paying 46% of the pot for an approximate 34% chance of winning vs my 3bet range here. Even vs my pfr stats he's only 42% to win.
I'm posting here as it has been a long time since getting in to playing and studying my game, and there's a good chance i'm forgetting something in my calculations.
I don't want to study all my hands if i'm doing it wrong.

Thanks.

Here's the hand with more info:

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software


HERO ($94270)[/color] [VPIP: 28% | PFR: 23% | AGG: 22% | Flop Agg: 37% | Turn Agg: 33.3% | River Agg: 26% | 3Bet: 9% | 4Bet: 12% | Hands: 23]
UTG ($389951) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 36.4% | AGG: 19% | Hands: 23]


Dealt to Hero: 4 4

HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, HERO Raises To $94270 (allin), BB Calls $85270

Flop ($191540): 7 K 5

Turn ($191540): 7 K 5 6

River ($191540): 7 K 5 6 8

Would help to list this in BBs (or even just include the size of the big blind). But I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to be a call, no. Not with what I think is your stack depth and how the bubble situation should tighten your shoving range. It would be a rather steep price to pay to advertise to the table that he's going to call shoves light on the bubble, too.

The HH says you have shoved from the SB in an unopened pot and were called by the BB. Ranges are way different compared to UTG raise, BB 3bet shove.

Huh, yeah, that's true. He said it was BB / UTG so I assumed it was. (A lot of the other details make more sense if that's the case - a 9000 BB is a weird level I wouldn't expect to see, and he certainly doesn't have an M of 10 if he's shoving 93k at a 9k BB.)

On the other hand, he says it's five-handed, and the hand history says there are three folds, a shove, and a BB call. So I'm not sure what actually happened now.

The hand history is wrong. Strange. I'll post it properly when I get back to the desktop. I assumed it would be correct as the replayer did the playback correct.
Thanks.

All my fault, sorry for the confusion. I messed up when reading the re player.
At least I finally realized what has happened. It was driving me nuts.

When checking through the histories on the re player last night I didn't know that only the SB and Antes are posted before pressing play.

When I press play the BB is posted and the hand is played.
I assumed the BB being posted was a raise from UTG. I had counted the SB and antes as being the full pot which was 9k (4k sb and 1k per person antes).

The actual hand is me shoving an M5 with 44 vs the BB and the BB called with A2os. I still find this to be a -EV call, but what do I know, I can't even read a history on a re player properly LOL.....

Here's the history without me editing out anyone or changing anything to how I saw it:

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem €4.50+€0.50 (8000BB)
CO ($296191) [VPIP: 34.2% | PFR: 23.7% | AGG: 35% | Hands: 38]
BTN ($87438) [VPIP: 25% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 14.3% | Hands: 20]
HERO ($94270) [VPIP: 27.9% | PFR: 22.9% | AGG: 22.2% | Flop Agg: 37% | Turn Agg: 33.3% | River Agg: 26.1% | 3Bet: 8.6% | 4Bet: 12.3% | Hands: 6783]
BB ($389951) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 36.4% | AGG: 19% | Hands: 23]
HJ ($334008) [VPIP: 38.9% | PFR: 27.8% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 18]

Dealt to Hero: 4 4

HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, HERO Raises To $94270 (allin), BB Calls $85270

Flop ($191540): 7 K 5

Turn ($191540): 7 K 5 6

River ($191540): 7 K 5 6 8

A2o might be close, but I don't think calling a BvB shove with an ace in hand at this stack depth can ever be bad. You should probably be shoving any two Broadway cards, a lot of suited connectors, suited kings (and a lot of offsuit kings), decent suited queens, etc. He's unlikely to ever be far ahead unless you have a deuce in your hand, but he's often going to be ahead, and with his stack and the pot odds he can certainly afford to make the call.

Thanks for the help nash. You helped me get there now

My shoving range to is around 60% at a M5. According to some charts I should be shoving around 70% in this position. I need to check more in to this.

Even at the my 60% range he made a nice call. He paid 44.5% of the pot with a 50.5% chance to win.

Looks like I need to look in to calling with more hands vs standard players with short stacks.

Loving the equity calculator in Drivehud.