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07-24-2018 , 12:43 AM
Hey, guys I am pretty new with online pokers and just trying to learn and improve my game. Here is a hand where I am not sure if I should fold to the re shove. I am not using a HUD so I have no stats on this opponent. What do you guys think I should do here. Also I really appreciate all the feedback and am grateful for this site and all the people who have given me valuable insight.


Winning Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $750/$1,500 ($150 ante) - 9 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

leggieblufs1 (UTG): $27,182.00 (18 bb)
SLAMPIG (UTG+1): $21,474.00 (14 bb)
therealocean (MP): $37,739.00 (25 bb)
iamsorry007 (MP+1): $46,866.00 (31 bb)
2EZz (LP): $44,776.00 (30 bb)
69Katrina69 (CO): $30,209.00 (20 bb)
check privilege (BU): $33,192.00 (22 bb)
Meryl Street (SB): $22,692.00 (15 bb)
MrUnlucky101 (BB): $170,457.00 (114 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($3,600) Hero (69Katrina69) is CO with 8 8
5 players fold, 69Katrina69 (CO) raises to $3,000, 1 fold, Meryl Street (SB) 3-bets to $22,542 (all-in), 1 fold, 69Katrina69 (CO) calls $19,542

Flop: ($47,934) 3 4 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($47,934) T (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($47,934) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $47,934 (Rake: $0)

Showdown:
Meryl Street (SB) mucks A A (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 80%, Flop: 90%, Turn: 95%, River: 95%)

69Katrina69 (CO) mucks 8 8 (a pair of Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 20%, Flop: 10%, Turn: 5%, River: 5%)

Meryl Street (SB) wins $47,934
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07-24-2018 , 12:52 PM
Can't fold 88 to a 15 BB reshove CO vs SB without a very strong read on the jammer. On to the next.
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07-24-2018 , 05:43 PM
Call. Hide results. Is this a on demand in demand?

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07-24-2018 , 08:36 PM
Unlucky there, too often you’ll be flipping or maybe even have him crushed if he had 77 or 66.
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07-24-2018 , 10:11 PM
Probably far from money here given stack sizes and blind level, so 15BB stack in SB can shove over min-raise with pretty wide range that includes many AX and KX combos as well as all the pocket pairs below 88, so figure it's a coin flip call here so all depends on whether you want to flip for your 20BB right then. It's not crazy to make the call, but also fine to fold.
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07-25-2018 , 12:46 AM
Absolute snap. Especially co vs sb 88 is light years ahead of his rejam range.
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07-25-2018 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518
Can't fold 88 to a 15 BB reshove CO vs SB without a very strong read on the jammer. On to the next.
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07-25-2018 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by KevinGChapman
Probably far from money here given stack sizes and blind level, so 15BB stack in SB can shove over min-raise with pretty wide range that includes many AX and KX combos as well as all the pocket pairs below 88, so figure it's a coin flip call here so all depends on whether you want to flip for your 20BB right then. It's not crazy to make the call, but also fine to fold.
We need 41% equity. We have almost 43% against a range of 77+, AJo+, ATs+. We need a BIG read to think opponent is jamming tighter than that, and I think a standard villain is jamming considerably wider than that. We get to 46% just by adding 66, KQs, and KJs. Add all the pairs, all suited aces, ATo, KQo and KJo and we have 54%.

Folding is a significant mistake against a standard villain, and not "fine."
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07-26-2018 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 69Katrina69
Also I really appreciate all the feedback and am grateful for this site and all the people who have given me valuable insight.
In general don't post the results. Not in the original post anyway. As much as we will try to give advice and comment without being results-oriented, it is more difficult.

Post results later SOMETIMES if you think it will serve to provide additional dialogue.

GL!
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07-26-2018 , 03:08 PM
Never folding vs. standard players w/o some kind of significant read.
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