Not going to elaborate here, just give your thoughts about this hand. I only played one tournament this evening, and played pretty good.. And won some decent sized pot, and executed some bluffs that seemed work.


Your take on this, which ruined my chances again of winning 700 $!

Pretty standard.

I would not open 5x that deep in tournament.

open sizing is nowhere nearly as bad as flop

I did not consider need for even seeing flop after I saw 5x but you are right,goon shipping is terrible.

[ ] opening 5x

[x] iso'ing limpers as std.

Yeah flop is pretty terrible just make it like 18775/call

as played unlucky but I'm not folding villains hand there either

Probably 11111 pre for me but meh. As played 15999/call or something. Shipping 2x pot here is bad, and by the tone of the OP you really need to adjust your thought process. This hand didn't "ruin" your chances of winning $700. It significantly increased them, as you got it in way ahead otf, but you got unlucky.

I didn't look at the spoiler, but it sounds like you got unlucky. Pre is fine nothing wrong with that but the flop is a pretty donk bet. Anyone who has half a mind knows youre going to have 2face cards minimum in that spot. Luckily enough u had a donk willing to pay you off

No offense to anyone but i don't see how villain is the donk in this hand?

OP's shove is pretty bad imo. This should be the bottom of villain's calling range, so in a way op got lucky actually.

I dont get the flop?
16Kish and extract value from his weaker holdings and never ever fold

I still think the sizing pre is slightly large, but not bad.

Bet the flop I don't get shoving we literally love that flop. this is a pretty std bbv

yeah the flop is the easiest b/c ever.

and nice beat btw

I'd make it smaller pre if we were BTN, but this sizing looks good OOP. The way you played it is so typical of scared money lol. Bet, forward-slash, call.

I make it like 10-11k pf. Flop is horrible buddy, jamming double pot basically folds out all worse hands except for maybe the one hand he had, and even that was stretching it. A bet of 18-19k keeps the Qx/draws in, and also sets up a turn shove (don't forget the potential for villain to shove over ur flop bet)

I agree with feedthabeast, this kinda looks like a bad beat story, u got it in as a 76% favorite, what more do you want?

Interesting question, If hero did bet 15-18k and villain called, how do we then approach this turn card?

I wanted to end the hand quickly, and I was not interesting in letting some equivalent big stack out-draw me for an reasonable price. Of course, he could have called with pocket 10's or Queens, but most times he does not have these holdings, so I take my chances.

If an ace showed on the flop, my KK would be evaluated in a different manner, and I would be more cautious. I had put him on two high cards, or some speculative hand like some pair. But in this hand there is one face card, a queen, a middle card, a ten, and a low card, a three. I knew that I most likely had the best hand on the flop, so jamming on the flop put him (and not me) in a tough spot, where he had to make a decision for his tournament life. He saw my substantial raise pre-flop, indicated a really, really strong hand. My image has been tight, and I've shown down solid values. If he's a rational player and decent player, this should be an consideration which should have crossed his mind, even though he had top-pair and top-kicker. "Am I up against kings or aces?" His call turned out to be a lucky break for him, which I don't blame him. It's just annoying.

OP, please read this part again. This is kinda important imo and i get the feeling u aren't getting that based on your post just now.

why would you want a worse hand than yours to have a tough decision? i'm guessing because u heard that tournement poker is about putting your opponent in tough decision spots. You want to manipulate your opponents decisions but you dont want them to be tough in this spot

And 'ending the hand quickly' + betsizing pre/post is as stated above an indication of scared money.