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BR for the 30$ Hypers on PS? BR for the 30$ Hypers on PS?

09-04-2011 , 02:19 PM
Hi 2+2's,

A quick question, what kind of BR do you guys think is responsible when you are playing the 30$ Hypers SNG on PokerStars?

Mr.Bowser
09-04-2011 , 03:50 PM
Only answer here is, it depends on how good you are
You need a huge roll if you are close to breakeven.
09-04-2011 , 05:02 PM
You need a huge BR unless you are a huge winner since the swings are insane
09-04-2011 , 05:38 PM
With the 30$ hypers the 100 buy in rule goes out the window really, I was playing them with 350Bis for a while then lost 100 bis, so I think maybe 150-200 BIs is enough?200+is safest IMO.
Its kinda ROI dependant, if your prone to tilt play with allot more BIs or dont play em at all.

150 MIN imo
09-04-2011 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ilovecoolers
....so I think maybe 150-200 BIs is enough?200+is safest IMO......150 MIN imo
This is what I would suggest for $10 9man games with >5% ROI. I've no idea how I should adjust it for low/mid stakes 6max though.
09-04-2011 , 06:58 PM
Depends on ROI along with a number of other factors, but I wouldnt play them with <9k if you're playing solely 30s

I am pretty nitty when it comes to brm compared to most tho
09-04-2011 , 08:56 PM
agreed atleast between 200-300 buyins. But really depends on your ROI. (obviously higher the ROI the less buyins required)
09-04-2011 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MetalSpork
This is what I would suggest for $10 9man games with >5% ROI. I've no idea how I should adjust it for low/mid stakes 6max though.
NIT! a guy that is playing 10$ SNGs and is asking for this kind of advice is never a pro so I would say 50BI max and give your best and try to learn the most while playing
09-04-2011 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ten shin zaga
NIT! a guy that is playing 10$ SNGs and is asking for this kind of advice is never a pro so I would say 50BI max and give your best and try to learn the most while playing
If bolded part is true, then said player should play the $7s to learn so they lose less while in learning mode

Last edited by slayerv1fan; 09-04-2011 at 09:02 PM. Reason: obv just
09-04-2011 , 09:12 PM
kinda true, but like by playing against better oponents you will learn more and faster so if you have the money to play the 30$ ones or you runned good at the beggining why not, instead of slowing down your learning process? Ofc you still have to consider emotionall things
09-04-2011 , 09:45 PM
I had a 95BI downswing playing $7.50 and $15 super turbos without breaking a sweat tiltwise. I don't see how you can have less than 150 BI.

Edit: And my lifetime ROI on STs was about 8%

Edit 2: I know there aren't any $10 hypers before I get s**t for that too lol

Edit 3: I also know I'm a nit

Last edited by MetalSpork; 09-04-2011 at 10:05 PM. Reason: tiltwise is a word
09-05-2011 , 05:21 AM
Just out of curiosity:
What's the difference between hypers and turbos? Just the time between blind level increases or are the blinds levels different also?
09-05-2011 , 09:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ten shin zaga
NIT! a guy that is playing 10$ SNGs and is asking for this kind of advice is never a pro so I would say 50BI max and give your best and try to learn the most while playing
Hardly being serious no? Yeah hes obv not a pro, but hes posting here because he wants to take it serious, so hes not a recreational play, 150-200 imo, but again. Very ROI dependant
09-05-2011 , 12:11 PM
Thanks everyone.. I've been playing these tournaments for fun, I normally play PLO.
I think I will start playing the 7$ with a 2000$ BR.

Thanks.
09-05-2011 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by urinpain
Just out of curiosity:
What's the difference between hypers and turbos? Just the time between blind level increases or are the blinds levels different also?
In the Hypers blind levels are 2 minutes and we start with ante and the stack is 500. In turbos the blind levels are 5 minutes no ante from beginning and our stack is 1500.
09-05-2011 , 01:08 PM
^thanks.
Guess Ongame turbos are in between: 3min blindlevels, 1500 startingstack (excl. higher buyins) and higher blind steps compared to stars/ftp afaik.
09-05-2011 , 03:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetalSpork
I had a 95BI downswing playing $7.50 and $15 super turbos without breaking a sweat tiltwise. I don't see how you can have less than 150 BI.

Edit: And my lifetime ROI on STs was about 8%

Edit 2: I know there aren't any $10 hypers before I get s**t for that too lol

Edit 3: I also know I'm a nit
Tilt had weekly RB and ftps and medals could be redeemed every month. Stars RB is going to be way lower and weighted near the end of they year or whenever you reach milestones. I bring this up because your gonna need to have a few dozen extra BIs to make up for the fact that you arent getting regular RB to keep your roll healthy.

I think if you have a 1% ROI you could get upto 250bi downswings but thatd be pretty rare. Id expect 60-140 downswings on the reg. Stars is easy enough to get money onto so Id say 140 and move down if you get below 30 bis or so.

Can anyone who plays these tell me who the highest multitabling regs are, and if you know how many games an hour they get in?
09-05-2011 , 03:34 PM
OP, do you have a good idea of your % finish positions for each prize? I can run #s in roi simulator, it is pretty easy to do. Gimme payouts, BI, etc if you want me to calc for you.
09-05-2011 , 04:36 PM
I think 200 BIs will be not bad.
Not less)
I can confirm that judging by my own bitter experience when I played with 100 BIs)
09-06-2011 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Ten shin zaga
I would say 50BI max and give your best and try to learn the most while playing
dude, your kidding rite? 50bi for hyper turbo sng's is an easy roll to bust.

you can easily drop 15-25 bi's in a single session and thats it you just blew through 50% of your roll due to running horribly.

idk maybe 50bi's is good if your 2-3 tabling but no matter how good you are compared to your opponents their will be a time period where your taking coolers left and right.

imo 150 bi's minimum for the Hypers(assuming 6 tables minimum) for most comfort and even more if your playing the higher stakes hyper turbo's.
09-06-2011 , 10:59 AM
$2k for me
09-06-2011 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Regret$
OP, do you have a good idea of your % finish positions for each prize? I can run #s in roi simulator, it is pretty easy to do. Gimme payouts, BI, etc if you want me to calc for you.
I'll have these stats tonight and then PM them to you. Thanks mate!
09-06-2011 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by entim
$2k for me
Hi dude. How many do you play at once and what has so far been your biggest BI downswing?
09-06-2011 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Bowser
Hi dude. How many do you play at once and what has so far been your biggest BI downswing?


entim 1,387 $2.09 $28 7% $2,900 Super Tilt N/A PokerStars E6-6 S5-50 Spd=ST No Sat. Rakeback41 SNG Only

obviously tiny sample but I think if you hold on 5%+ ROi before rakeback
you shouldn't drop more than 1-2k that often
I play 8-12 tables at once.

It's like these $30 hypers are in the awkward state of not making you a
huge amount of money pre rakeback but at the same time,
they are not viable enough to rakewhore enough to make SNE unless
you really want to kill time playing

I hope they bring in the $60 hypers to let people move up and down
the levels and have a healthy recreational to pro environment,
there are times when good players and bad players hit heaters in these
things and there is no *level above*
09-06-2011 , 12:56 PM
Yeah I see what you mean. How long have you been playing these Hypers? & do you know if they intend to introduce the 60$?
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