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Originally Posted by kleath
the focus isnt even on the right ****, you want to bitch about ma's the big problem isnt the backers ghosting its the ronaldkoshs and gboros of the world grinding full schedules on fresh accounts, or a new uraguan account that plays just like sixthsense every month, or shared accounts that have 100% of cals tendencies on a random day. Hmm havent seen noctus in a while guess he mustve quit backing and playing. ghosting is one thing, not saying its not a grey area at best and scummy at its worst but vast majority of backer horse ghosting ive experienced is horse goes hey think im gonna fold here backer says sure go for it, thats a whole different level than giving someone a proverbial blank face and giving them 100% control over decisions when they have history with heaps of the field. props to the few non ******s who still play on their own name, its getting rarer and rarer
Lol Noctus.
Can't wait to see that POS in hell.
a+ post kleatherson, tbh almost all of this is new info to me, although not exactly surprising.
I find it most amazing that the people involved feel cool and comfortable with these practices--that there are players who don't get queasy by the fact that they're not even good enough (is that what it is? not a high enough equity?) to finish out their own tournaments and not have to pass off the event to a backer or seek real time ghosting/advice.
That any backer could systematically do this sort of blows my mind too. I've worked with many many backers over the years, and never once was put in a position where ghosting was suggested. Is it, like, a requirement in some operations? Serious question--is there a firm agreement in place that the backer takes over at x-point in y-tournament?
How does such a backer sleep at night? And does having an avatar of the crucifix absolve one of all such misdeeds?
Then...just the idea that any of my peers would be willing to set up an anonymous account, play from the States while thousands of other grinders go to enormous hassle and expense to do it legitimately...well, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Most perplexing and frustrating thing is it's usually the most talented players with the highest natural edge who seek out the additional illicit edges.
But it's nothing new in poker...back in '04 I multi-accounted exactly once using the party poker exploit...it *felt* immediately and completely wrong, so I never did it again. Apparently many others didn't get this feeling, because "everyone was doing it."
So, meh, different ethical codes for different folks.
Also, seriously--LOL Noctus. My read on you was so dead-on from day one.
Last edited by shaniac; 10-04-2013 at 08:59 AM.
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