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Is the Bond hand a winner ? ;-) Is the Bond hand a winner ? ;-)

07-27-2022 , 11:46 AM
Winamax - 10000/20000 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

It's a 2€ tourney. We are in the last third of the game.

CO: 22.73 BB
BTN: 23.39 BB
SB: 18.61 BB
Hero (BB): 29.68 BB
UTG: 15.47 BB
MP: 7.37 BB

6 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.25 BB) Hero has 5 7

fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (5.25 BB, 2 players) 4 6 6
Hero checks, CO bets 1.5 BB, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Turn: (8.25 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, CO bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

River: (16.25 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, CO bets 15.11 BB and is all-in
Hero ?

And what now ? What would have done in any part of the hand post flop. I emphasize the term post flop because I know that we can throw this hand away pre-flop. But the question here is once we have some equity in the hand, what should we do after the flop had come. Cheers !
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07-28-2022 , 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Joey Fiuza
I know that we can throw this hand away pre-flop
I disagree.
Suited and kind of connected against a minraise from CO is always a call.

On the flop, I'd use my range advantage to check-raise a lot.
At 2€ MTT people Cbet waaaay too much.

If he has an overpair, he'll go AI, you'll have to fold, and it's bad.
But overpairs are a very small part of his range.
He will fold to your check raise very often, even more if it's late game.

(I'm still a learning player by the way, I'm not really sure about what I'm saying )
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07-28-2022 , 06:31 AM
I agree with everything Justo said.

As played, river is a fold.
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07-28-2022 , 12:25 PM
Weird spot with the stack sizes. With a draw this strong we do not want to c/r and fold, but also this is a board that we should be c/ring a bunch since we have a lot of 6x.

Two options that I see:

1) Just call with our open ended draws and c/r our gutshots

2) Make our c/r large enough that we have the odds to call off a shove with OESD but still fold our gutshots. To do that we need to c/r to a size that leaves ~ 70% psb behind. That would require a big c/r to like 8bb.

Option 1 seems like a solid exploit strat vs 2euro villains who are going to be cbetting too wide and over folding to a smaller c/r

Option 2 is probably closer to a balanced game theory strat
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07-28-2022 , 09:29 PM
Defending this hand is totally standard here, and I like check-raising the flop. I suppose having to fold sucks, but this flop is just going to miss villain so much that you're going to pick up the pot right away a lot of the time. And when you get called, you can keep barreling on favorable turns that improve your equity-- if you blast this turn it might be hard for a lot of pocket pairs that would easily call the flop to call here.
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08-01-2022 , 07:36 AM
Preflop
Standard defend

Flop
I prefer check-raising against a small C-bet like this, but check-calling is certainly better than check-folding, when you flop an OESD.

Turn
You picked up a flushdraw, but the problem is, this card often improved him to top pair, and in that case he is unlikely to be willing to fold. So as played its a clear check-call again.

River
You improved to a flush, but you only beat a bluff, since everything else is a full house. I think, he can very easily have AX here for top boat, so for me this is an easy fold as played. If he did in fact have AX, then the time to win the hand was on the flop by putting in a solid check-raise.
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08-03-2022 , 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by fundiver199
Preflop
Standard defend

Flop
I prefer check-raising against a small C-bet like this, but check-calling is certainly better than check-folding, when you flop an OESD.

Turn
You picked up a flushdraw, but the problem is, this card often improved him to top pair, and in that case he is unlikely to be willing to fold. So as played its a clear check-call again.

River
You improved to a flush, but you only beat a bluff, since everything else is a full house. I think, he can very easily have AX here for top boat, so for me this is an easy fold as played. If he did in fact have AX, then the time to win the hand was on the flop by putting in a solid check-raise.

Sorry to hijack thread but I'm just starting out and a few times I have got in the situation similar to the above (OESD) where I check-raise in the flop, then an A or K comes up which is in the range in the villain and I'm not sure how to continue. in the low $ online tourneys I play, people often call/play AX regardless of the board...

Is a case of check-calling anything lower than 40-50% of pot and hoping I hit on the river?
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