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Old 08-01-2021, 08:04 AM   #1
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Awkward spot on flop vs BB cbet raise

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - 80/160 (20 ante) - 7 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

Hero (UTG): 5,471 (34 bb)
Player7 (MP): 1,988 (12 bb)
Player8 (MP+1): 4,896 (31 bb)
Player9 (CO): 6,516 (41 bb)
Player3 (BU): 2,508 (16 bb)
Player4 (SB): 7,282 (46 bb)
Player5 (BB): 5,060 (32 bb)

Pre-Flop: (380) Hero (Hero) is UTG with K J
Hero (UTG) raises to 356, 5 players fold, Player5 (BB) calls 196

Flop: (932) 7 9 J (2 players)
Player5 (BB) checks, Hero (UTG) bets 480, Player5 (BB) raises to 1,048, Hero (UTG) raises to 5,095 (all-in), Player5 (BB) calls 3,636 (all-in)



Hello, this is a 0.25$ SNG 45man. We are with 7 players at this table with a total of 12 players left or so.

I open 2.2x UTG with KJo with 31bb and BB calls.
I decided to bet 1/2 pot. I guess 1/3 pot is fine too.

My value range here are overpairs QQ+, JJ, 99 and 77 for sets, sometimes a J9s for top two and JT+ for top pairs.
My semi bluffs are AQs+, KQs, KTs, QTs, QTo. I don't have any bluffs here. All backdoor clubs and gutshots I will check back. TT and 88 I also check back.

I want to get value from weaker pairs Jx, 9x and 7x with my top pair, but once he raises I don't know what to do? Should I call and when we see a brick on turn call of? Should I jam and flip? Because when I jam and he calls we are either flipping or stone cold dead.

When he raises my cbet his range is 77 and maybe 99 for sets, J9, J7 and 97 for two pair but we have J blocker, flush draws and QT for OESD and T8 for a straight. I don't think this guy would raise gutshots.

Villain was playing 29/19 (VPIP/PFR), fold to cbet is 50% (8 hands) and his raise cbet is 25% (8 hands).

Thank you.
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Old 08-01-2021, 07:05 PM   #2
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Re: Awkward spot on flop vs BB cbet raise

I mean for this size I guess you just cry call the flop and expect to be beat some % of the time. Don't like the jam tbh. You're overrepping your hand he basically has nothing worse to call. They do have the 25 cent spazz factor tho still potentially.
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Old 08-02-2021, 06:22 AM   #3
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Re: Awkward spot on flop vs BB cbet raise

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I mean for this size I guess you just cry call the flop and expect to be beat some % of the time. Don't like the jam tbh. You're overrepping your hand he basically has nothing worse to call. They do have the 25 cent spazz factor tho still potentially.
1. Is there any merrit in folding the flop after V raise my cbet?

2. What about checking and what range are you checking on the flop?
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Old 08-02-2021, 12:54 PM   #4
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Re: Awkward spot on flop vs BB cbet raise

You're prob overfolding if you fold this unless they just literally are only bladed. I'd be checking stuff like AKo with no clubs on the flop.
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Old 08-03-2021, 12:52 PM   #5
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Re: Awkward spot on flop vs BB cbet raise

You'll certainly run into some spew at this stake, so his range could be weaker than the move suggests. Still don't think I like the shove; maybe if your king was a club??

Don't think you can fold at this stake without a very specific read (do you have any info about villain, btw?).
If you flat his raise, there's a decent chance he shoves the turn anyway......but at least that gives you a chance to bow out if the turn is a club.

That would probably be my line without a specific read: call his raise, call all non-club [maybe non-8 or non-T, too] turns.


btw, I could be wrong [I'm no poker savant], but I think you're making a mistake by not cbetting TT or 88 HU ip on a board like this, and at this stake. You'll get value from draws (even gut-shots at this level), 7x (and 9x, in case of TT), the odd smaller pp, as well as protecting your hand from random Ax garbage that wiffed the flop completely.
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