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Aria 400 too aggro preflop spots? Aria 400 too aggro preflop spots?

06-17-2022 , 06:45 PM
Hey all, I played the $400 at aria today and had a few spots I may have played way too aggro.
Just want thoughts.

25k starting stack- I’m up to 35k at 200-300 level. Ok so competent lady opens to 700 from ep, mawg rec flats to her right and I’m in small blind and have Q-10dd. I elect to make it 3200. They both have around 25k. She folds and he flats. Flop is 682 and I elect to cbet 2200 into 7700 as an exploit. He raises and I fold. Are you ok with the 3bet? I know it’s high variance but I feel he’s going to fold a lot or have small pp type hands or 88/99 type stuff. I think it might be stupid to 3bet this hand (especially oop) but just wondering thoughts?

H2- I have J10ss on button. Maybe 25k at 400 bb level. Same guy from last hand opens to 1200, 2 flats behind and I elect to make it 5k (not sure if this sizing is correct). Guy flats and 2 behind fold (I kinda goofed and thought one person behind him flatted- I would have went much bigger if I knew 3 were in hand). Flop 952 one spade. Only original opener calls. He x and I make it 1/2 pot or a tad smaller. He x raises and I fold. He shows something like 68 for no pair lol. Great bluff by him I guess. I never think he’s light there bc he’s a clueless rec. I still find it insane he flatted my 3 bet pre so light.

H3- this is prolly standard but wanna check. I have 6800 at 800 bb level. Another mawg that seems kinda aggro opens ep to 1600, old white guy flats from mp that seems bad and I have A-10o maybe from cu. I just rip. Ep calls with 66 and holds. I A-10o ok to just rip here? I may have had 7-8 bbs. Idk sizing but yes I have no FE. Didn’t expect 66 to call with guy behind. Guy actually iso to 15k pre with 66 to force other player out which I just found so lol.

Btw the $400s at aria seem super soft. At my table, multiple people were limping early on (more so than I normally see). I also had a women open to 2.2x when stacks were 80+bb deep which I found kinda odd when live mtt players love to flat to small sizing pre (sure 900-700 isn’t a huge difference but I feel we wanna make pots bigger against the recs that are still around so deep).


H4 from super early wanna check on. Ok I open JJsx to 600 at 200 bb level on button and we all have 25k. Small blind flats (mawg who is super rec). Flop AQ3 with 2 spades. Goes xx (I consider cbetting but think he calls correct). Turn 6s. He leads 900? Or something like that. I call (I prolly exploit fold if I don’t have a S. River J. He leads 600. I raise to 4200 planning to fold to a raise. He tank calls and mucks. Ok sizing on river? Idk if I got board texture 100% correct but board was super straight heavy so I planned to fold river if he raised oddly enough. I assume he had 2pair or a weak A.
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06-18-2022 , 10:43 AM
Also have a final hand. Might have 20-25k at 400bb level. I open cutoff or button with 95cc at a very straightforward table. Sb makes it 2k with similar stack- mawg rec that doesn’t seem to be good. I sigh call (in my mind)- don’t think we can fold to such a small 3b here. You ok with this?

I ended up flipping a 9 on K92 where it goes xx. Turn 5. He leads I call. River 7. He bets fairly big and I just call and win. Just try ouch 2k over 900 is too small but wonder what people say here. I feel dominated pre. I fold to 2700 but not 2k.
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06-18-2022 , 12:09 PM
H1 - Dont think you need to be too creative at this stage of the tournament, hand seems perfectly fine to take a flop with a rec in the pot and going from there, in the off chance we decide to go with the aggro route tho, id rather use JTs QJs KQs, If our read is that hes going to have a lot of suited connectors + small pockets this texture does hit him really well, we wanted atleast a big card on the flop so we can continue to apply pressure, we didn't get it, i understand we still have outs to some hands, but it doesn't feel like our flop bet is going to be profitable enough to justify it, would like to start with a check, we ain't giving up, he isn't always betting the flop when we check, if he does we will fold but he'll check behind sometimes too, and when he does we could potentelly find blufs in some runnouts.

H2 - I understand the sqz, but it does feel like you're taking very tiny % plays way too much, your hand is the hand you want to flat otb and flop gold in a multiway pot with recs, it does't
make much sense to make their ranges tighter and play a pot for most of your chips with J high, fact he called with 86s makes the play even worse, he wouldn't fold the hands we want him to fold in the first place when we do this, as played your size is too large, this flop is very dry and we should be able to get most of his misses to fold with 1/3, and give ourselfs a bit of room to fire 40-50% on good turns in case he calls.

H3 - Im sure ATo is fine with this amount of dead-money and people behind you making some slightly tight folds, opener isolation with 66 seems as std as it gets sir, not sure why you found
it so lol

H4 - Super straight heavy ? there's only two straights possible otr, and ott he might not even bet with all of his straight draws for that size, with the spade im sure is fine to call but it kinda sucks, without it is a standard fold, river raise play and size is fine

H5 - Hopefully it was from the btn, and it's quite loose already but sure, from CO table needs to be really sweet, and your statement talking about the overall field of the tournmanet contradicts all of your aggro plays in early levels, you can't win the tournament at 400 blind level dude, but you can sure **** lose it.

As played i can't understand why you didn't A) raise turn ? if people are playing straight-forward why you're slowplaying the virtual nuts ? and B) why not raise the river man ? you're really scared of a set of kings here ? you block nines so i assume you ain't scared of that
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06-18-2022 , 12:30 PM
H3- how is that standard with 66. Some recs will flat AKo, 1010 or JJ bc they are clueless most of the time early in mtts. Isoing like 40-50 bbs with 66 is just so goofy. Are you isoing AA or KK here? I’m not. I’m peeling the slightly less than 10 bbs and saying person behind- feel free to play against me post in a 20-30bb pot where I have the nizzle. AK I would be fine with iso or maybe AQ but 66? It’s a punt if mp player flatted 88+ and gets sticky per se.


I may have goofed and raised that hand in last spot. Not sure? Hmm I prolly didn’t raise bc villian is never calling worse and we open up to a raise or call by better hands. What is the point of raising if villian never calls worst honestly.

Btw yea I def take too many thin spots. It was my first tourny in vegas so I’ll prolly try to go a little less crazy now in future unless dynamics allow. Prolly shouldn’t spazz with 3b so early in these types of spots in very soft fields.
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06-20-2022 , 09:54 AM
H1 - It's ok to do this some % of the time. I honestly think your small bet on the flop sometimes encourages the other player to checkraise you relatively cheaply. I think I would make this 3K on this board. on an A high board I would probably bet 2,200.

H2 - It seems like you have a bit of an image issue if the player is going to do that often.

H3 - Not that bad by the player with 66. It's one of the spots a lot of people don't know what to do. If they flat, they are going to be in a weird spot in the rest of the hand if the other player comes along. If they Isolate, they can try and rep a stronger hand and play you headsup in a coin flip situation with some dead money in. I would shove ATo here as well.

H4 - I don't think a small bet on the river is a flush. It's so tiny, this is a weak Ace or Q trying to get thin value. I would probably raise something smaller that he can actually call.

H5 - I would probably play it the same as you. For such a small 3 bet and in position, I would probably call in this spot.
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06-22-2022 , 06:04 AM
H1 I like it, sux to face top of rec range

H2 flat pre and see three, as played lol even amateur chess players make a few perfect moves every game

H3 meh if no icm then tiny ev difference either way and prob fine


Aggression is fine, even Uber aggression, but take your time to act live. Considered actions get more respect than reflex.
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06-23-2022 , 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by oldsilver
H1 I like it, sux to face top of rec range

H2 flat pre and see three, as played lol even amateur chess players make a few perfect moves every game

H3 meh if no icm then tiny ev difference either way and prob fine


Aggression is fine, even Uber aggression, but take your time to act live. Considered actions get more respect than reflex.
I always take my time live. I kinda have this weird habit where whether I have Q-10suited as a 3bet fold/ or say KK/AA where I 3 bet for value- I always take around 10-20’seconds to analyze sizing of my 3 bet to not give some kinda weird live timing tell away. I almost feel
It’s bad for my 3 bet folds but I always do it. Kinda like when online people will take a lot of time on turn/ river spots when putting in a big bet etc.


I’ll play with nobody here live most likely but if I’m in a river/ turn spot, if I’m taking my time. It’s either value or bluff thinking about sizing. It’s prolly a bit irritating but I like to try and take similar time with these types of decisions so I’m always acting in same manner.

Random but I ended up betting 2.2x pot other day at mgm in a river spot after 20-30 seconds of the thought with a wheel (45 in a bb defend type spot) and the guy tanked call for me having heaps super early. Maybe not great but I’m a fan of really going with huge sizings when possible to be polarized with either nutty type hands or pure trash hands trying to find a fold.
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