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Apt said fold AJo from the CO to a EP2  3x raise at 40bb effective Apt said fold AJo from the CO to a EP2  3x raise at 40bb effective

04-02-2024 , 06:48 PM
I hope this Link works
I'm Trying out Advanced poker Training site , A Really good Concept for Getting Reps in and Feedback, Stats , It has 28 Advisors on it and I've been looking at there advice to see if The Algorithms or whatever They are seem right, I played this hand in a Tournament .
blinds 50/100 with 45BB effective
Ep2 raises 3x
I have AJo in the CO and was Between call or 3-Bet. I chose to call .
You can click on the advice Button and all the 28 Advisors are saying Fold .
the Software seems Pretty Solid But this one has Got Me !
Any thoughts on this or experiences with APT Appreciated .
I,ve also attached a screenshot of the advice button when pressed.

Add on , I removed the link as it seems to log into my account there, but the Screenshot should show all .
Apt said fold AJo from the CO to a EP2  3x raise at 40bb effective Quote
04-02-2024 , 07:57 PM
I would guess that the combination of position and raise size (UTG+1 shouldn't be going bigger than 2.5x at this depth, and with no apparent ante, it's almost certainly proper to go even smaller) means the sim has a pretty tight range for him, and you're not getting aces or jacks you dominate in that range. Or at least not often enough, but I'd still be surprised if hands like ATs or KJs went at large as 3x here.
Apt said fold AJo from the CO to a EP2  3x raise at 40bb effective Quote
04-02-2024 , 10:10 PM
Absolutely a fold. Flat calling is like taking a flame to your chips. Either raise or fold l. But folding is the EV play. That's fairly standard and basic my friend
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04-03-2024 , 10:15 AM
Cheers Nath, Good point about the Ante's not being present. The 3x was The one thing i was thinking and along with the lack of Ante's would make sense.
Sportsbook , A bit Condesending Saying ( That's fairly standard and basic my friend ) and Maybe if You elaborated on Your answer more. AJo against UTG+1 range here would be around 52% Equity, Sure You got 3 to act Behind You but any Software I have is a Mix of Call and Raise. I Study The Game but will be the first to admit I still have a long way to go . I'm Not being Argumentative and would welcome Your input and Explanation as that's how We Progress Forward in the game .
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04-11-2024 , 11:31 PM
Curious to know what folks think about the stack depth influence here. Hero is the short stack at the table, even with 45BB. The call as played invites the button and the two blinds -- all with bigger stacks -- to come along with marginal holdings. Assuming none of them squeeze three-bet, the pot would be ~1500 leaving hero with 1:3 SPR. This makes it nearly impossible to call a post-flop bet without committing more than half the stack and basically becoming pot committed, while all the other players have deeper stacks and can float or bluff much more easily. A three-bet to 1200 puts hero in about the same position if anyone calls, although he often ends up heads-up vs. the OR, which is a much better spot with AJo than playing 5-ways from the CO. This makes the fold the best play in this specific spot and suggests that a 3-bet is superior to a flat call.
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04-12-2024 , 03:57 PM
I think in this day and age, 3x open size in a tournament after the first few levels is a large size raise. It screams strength usually. The problem with AJo is it's one of those hands that you don't know where you stand in most situations vs an opponent that is betting large. You aren't really happy to be calling down on A high boards and on J high boards you want to be careful because you lose to QQ, KK, AA. Versus an EP open, the villain is less likely to have junky weak Aces (A7, A8, etc.) and more likey to have big Aces.
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04-12-2024 , 04:42 PM
Yeah Both Good points. The Larger Sizing and SPR. Suppose You're not loving the Flop in most scenarios Less Than 2 pair. It's Definitley a Funky Hand Facing a EP Bet Especially with others to act Behind You . It's Just that The software I use has it as a call or Raise, Though looking at it now it was at Chip EV and if I drop it down to 75% , 50%, 25% ( Which as I have it to Mean the further into the tournament You Get When ICM Starts Creeping in ) it becomes a Raise or fold .

When I put the same hand in it comes out like this

80-100BB. a mix of all 3. call,Raise, Fold
25-60BB call, raise . so no fold option.
15 - 20BB 100% Call . I'm Struggling to see Why that would be
Sub 15 Basically Shove.

I'd be interested to see if anyone else Has similar Results with other Software.
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04-12-2024 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Temple Dog
15 - 20BB 100% Call . I'm Struggling to see Why that would be
I would guess that if you shove at that depth then you're only getting called by AQ+ (and pairs), whereas if you call you're keeping aces and jacks in that you dominate and you're short enough that if you flop top pair you can still get the money in vs. those hands.
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