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Old 09-14-2005, 11:14 AM   #51
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Re: Almost there with Success and Failure (Long)

What I love about this post is that a lot of these lessons can be applied to life as well. Gigabet has a great future ahead of him, regardless if he plays another hand of poker or not.
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Old 10-05-2005, 05:56 PM   #52
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I was a little bit upset to see this post in College Card Player magazine. Its in the October issue for anyone thats wondering.
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Old 10-05-2005, 06:10 PM   #53
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what upsets you about seeing this in CP? Is it that you think it makes it to easy to stumble upon?
because bumping the thread does the same thing
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Old 11-10-2005, 12:14 AM   #54
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I really wish I'd seen this thread a year ago...but then again, I wouldn't have understood it then.
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Old 11-10-2005, 12:28 AM   #55
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I really wish I'd seen this thread a year ago...but then again, I don't understand it now
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Old 11-12-2005, 01:31 PM   #56
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This may be seem off topic, but I submit it anyway. I was in Atlantic City once a couple of years back, and per my usual routine I was doing a very little bit of playing table games and alot of watching. I simply enjoy the reality of watching the fluctuations we call luck play themselves. Like when I bump into a guy with a stressed look on his face and ask him how he's doing.. He replies, he's down 10 baloons. 10K.. I offer a sympathetic tight smile and give him my patented, It'll turn....It'll turn..
Then within 5 minutes I witness him call to a Sic Bo dealer he knew "Hey Joe I need the triple 5s NOW" He places a bet for the triple fives, the dealer shakes the dice cup vigorously and out come three fives, a 216-1 shot. With a $25 chip on it, the dealer smiles and pays him out 5K. Next lesson I step to the left and watch two 20 something year old guys at a Pai Gow table, I watched them from the start. Their grubstake a couple hundred bucks. Within 30 minutes they ran it up to 100k, I witnessed every hand of the journey. At 100k the pit boss or floor person told the dealer that's it, he had to come out. The dealer begged and pleaded with the manager to let him stay in, "these guys were going to turn around" It took 10 minutes of pleading.. The manager left him in. As if they rang a bell... the downhill run for these players began in earnest, Straight down.. so they went for a nice ride, from $200-300 up to 100k right back in slightly less time to nadaville, zip and they quietly walked away. I looked at the dealer and I walked away too... Looking for a $6.00 hot dog and the next show of high drama in probability. What's the lesson here.. well the lesson is in the world of gaming, any gaming, you must know that you'll face fluctuations and if you don't have the mind set to deal with it, well enuf said..... And the Chris Moneymaker thing... you have to realize exactly how many times (plenty) his championship hung in the balance of a final all in draw, and that something other than all of his skills, which are great.. had to present to help him close out all of those opponents. What was it?? A luck vector. Something he could not control.. His main skill in my opinion, was knowing(feeling) that the vector was there
and that it was going to be strong enough to carry him to the end that he hoped for...
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Old 02-02-2006, 11:02 AM   #57
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Re: Almost there with Success and Failure (Long)

I have come to realize that it is much better to acknowledge the negative or angry thoughts as they arrive, that doesn't mean just noticing their presence, when they approach, actually talk to your mind and announce their arrival, and then identify the reasons behind them. As your mind comes to realize how trivial and meaningless these thoughts are, it will eventually stop creating them in the first place. It takes alot of time and effort to do this, but the long term results will be well worth it.

What I have come to realize is even when the mind doesn't stop creating them because the mind is a very tricky fellow
those thoughts become little "smoozes". So I invite them in, "ahhhhhh howdy my little friend anger, or fear, or judgment howya been?" Awareness, Allowness, let go-ness.....and it's fun too!
There seems to me these little fellows act from wanting something or not wanting something. It appears to me they either want love and approval, want control, want oneness or separation or want security. We all have our dragons, and as the mythology suggests are we going to slay our dragons.
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Old 02-02-2006, 11:05 AM   #58
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$200-300 up to 100k right back in slightly less time to nadaville, zip and they quietly walked away.
This is one of the dumbest degenerate gambling stories I've ever heard.
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Old 02-20-2006, 03:55 PM   #59
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This is a great post....if you want to create a bunch of suckers. And, judging from the responses, you're doing a spectacular job.

I got a great laugh out of the line:

"There are no successful people, or rather, using these words, I should say that there are no failures and everyone is a success."
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Old 02-20-2006, 07:13 PM   #60
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This is a great post....if you want to create a bunch of suckers. And, judging from the responses, you're doing a spectacular job.

I got a great laugh out of the line:

"There are no successful people, or rather, using these words, I should say that there are no failures and everyone is a success."
Welcome to the forums, friend.
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Old 03-01-2006, 05:09 PM   #61
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Re: Almost there with Success and Failure (Long)

not to start [censored] but anyone want to comment on g's post in light of things I've heard? has that been discussed elsewhere?
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Old 03-01-2006, 05:17 PM   #62
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IMO his posts are still his posts. I've always taken them and evaluated them for their content, not from an argument-by-authority. I've gotten a lot out of the discussions that he's had with various people on here, and gossip central doesn't really change that.
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Old 03-01-2006, 05:23 PM   #63
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not to start [censored] but anyone want to comment on g's post in light of things I've heard? has that been discussed elsewhere?
I like how whenever someone says, "Not to start [censored]," that is exactly his intention. Classless.
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Old 03-01-2006, 05:32 PM   #64
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Old 03-01-2006, 05:38 PM   #65
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not to start [censored] but...
take it NVG. No reason to bump this thread just to add gossip to it.
Even if the worst imaginable was true, it doesn't give license to start bumping old threads and drag down legitimate content.
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Old 03-01-2006, 05:58 PM   #66
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not to start [censored] but...
take it NVG. No reason to bump this thread just to add gossip to it.
Even if the worst imaginable was true, it doesn't give license to start bumping old threads and drag down legitimate content.
At least he bumped one of the (if not the) best posts of 2005.

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Old 03-01-2006, 06:01 PM   #67
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Beyond the somewhat classless nature of starting [censored] here, what does Giga's personal finances have to do with whether his post is good advice or not?
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Old 03-04-2006, 04:33 PM   #68
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So how can you figure out what they have? Well, get to know him, watch him play. Try and figure out what he is thinking, he has to be thinking something. Put yourself in his spot, what kind of hand would you have if you were betting like that?

Now do this for every hand for every player that is in the hand, for every player at the table, for every table that you are playing at. Try and eight table while doing this exercise. Put effort into every single hand that is played out at your table, not just the ones you are involved in, every single hand. Every time there is a showdown, and the losing hand is mucked, open up the hand history file, and see what he had. Go through the hand again and see if you can figure out why he willingly showed down a losing hand(something that should rarely be done.)

I call this an exercise, but this should be done on every single hand that is played out at any of your tables for the rest of your poker career.
There is a strong possibility that I am the most active player in the world, and I can honestly say that this is something that I do on nearly every hand. Imagine, 6000 hands a day on average, just watching and learning, with no predisposed judgements of the other players.
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I have just arrived at this point in the "An Anthology of 2+2 Wisdom on MTTs". I don't know anything about Gigabet but to do what he is talking about, you would have to be an android (and a very advanced one like "Data")

Even if I could play 6000 hands in a day (which I can't), it seems to me it would take a week to analyze them.
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Old 08-06-2006, 12:46 AM   #69
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how do you actively pay attention to the cards of people at 8 tables and constantly put them on cards when all the screens keep blinking?
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Old 08-06-2006, 12:55 AM   #70
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how do you actively pay attention to the cards of people at 8 tables and constantly put them on cards when all the screens keep blinking?
this guy just crushed b33nz' record, whatever it was.
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Old 08-06-2006, 03:00 AM   #71
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how do you actively pay attention to the cards of people at 8 tables and constantly put them on cards when all the screens keep blinking?

nice bump....i bumped a post of YOURS though, degen, and it was a year old, so booya.

second off, i asked this when i was more of a n00b and people basically said you dont....search for other threads
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Old 08-06-2006, 03:24 AM   #73
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how do you actively pay attention to the cards of people at 8 tables and constantly put them on cards when all the screens keep blinking?
nice bump....i bumped a post of YOURS though, degen, and it was a year old, so booya.

second off, i asked this when i was more of a n00b and people basically said you dont....search for other threads
haha nice, which thread?

i believe it was when your "1 year of being a pro" thread was posted a couple months ago, and you had a link to your original "going pro" thread in there and i bumped the [censored] out of that
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Old 11-26-2006, 04:03 PM   #74
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This is a great post...if you want to create a bunch of suckers. And, judging from the responses, you're doing a spectacular job.

I got a great laugh out of the line:

"There are no successful people, or rather, using these words, I should say that there are no failures and everyone is a success."
I see G's thoughts in two ways:

1) He may be saying that the journey is more important than getting from point A to B. In that case, if you learn and have fun along the way, then that is a success.

2) If you do want to measure your success by BB/100, BB/hr, ROI, etc then you still have to ignore those measures in order to reach them. This is what seems counter-intuitive, god-like or whatever to some of you.

Evaluating opponents with a detached outlook and playing them based on your reads and intuition (whether those reads and intuition are based on absorbing the math of shtloads of hands or are just a skill in and of itself doesn't matter, as long as you get to that point) is the path to playing well. And playing well will be a good journey as well as getting you to Point B.
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Old 11-26-2006, 04:32 PM   #75
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This is a great post...if you want to create a bunch of suckers. And, judging from the responses, you're doing a spectacular job.

I got a great laugh out of the line:

"There are no successful people, or rather, using these words, I should say that there are no failures and everyone is a success."
I see G's thoughts in two ways:

1) He may be saying that the journey is more important than getting from point A to B. In that case, if you learn and have fun along the way, then that is a success.

2) If you do want to measure your success by BB/100, BB/hr, ROI, etc then you still have to ignore those measures in order to reach them. This is what seems counter-intuitive, god-like or whatever to some of you.

Evaluating opponents with a detached outlook and playing them based on your reads and intuition (whether those reads and intuition are based on absorbing the math of shtloads of hands or are just a skill in and of itself doesn't matter, as long as you get to that point) is the path to playing well. And playing well will be a good journey as well as getting you to Point B.
If you want to bump old threads, do it with this one. It was just bumped so you have to wait a few months.
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