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All in Equity vs C Net Adjusted for 6 Max Sit N Go's All in Equity vs C Net Adjusted for 6 Max Sit N Go's

02-04-2024 , 09:20 PM
I know this topic has been beaten to death but I didn't find the answer I was looking for when googling.

I just started playing $1 6-Max Hyper Turbo Sit N Go's on Stars and am unsure whether C Net Adjusted or All in Equity is a better marker for 'EV'.

On the first assumption given my graph and the closeness of the orange and green line, C Net Adjusted seems more accurate, but I think for Sit N Go's given that you are going all in multiple times per tourney, All in Equity may be a better marker.

On my downturn from SNG No. 211 to the end of the graph I was getting sucked out when getting it in good etc. - not vexed at all btw lol this is just for fun rly - but this was not reflected I think in my C Net Adj. line, but it was in my All in Equity Line which continued to climb, which I think reflected how I was getting it in good.

I can't help but feel that given the number of all-ins in Hyper SNGs - almost every hand at Micros at least 1 player is all-in - the All-in Equity may be more accurate.

Am I having delusions of grandeur and not very good or is my sample size not big enough or a bit of both?

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02-06-2024 , 05:57 AM
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All in Equity Line which continued to climb, which I think reflected how I was getting it in good.
That may be true, but you are ignoring ICM. Many hands that are massively +chipEV are losers in terms of $EV. Especially near bubble when the risk premium is highest.

chipEV is pretty meaningless in a format that is not a winner takes all. If I may suggest, read some articles that explain what ICM is, it will all make sense then.

Btw relevant sample sizes for SNGs are in thousands of games, for hypers it's perhaps 10,000 tournaments.
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02-07-2024 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mato4
That may be true, but you are ignoring ICM. Many hands that are massively +chipEV are losers in terms of $EV. Especially near bubble when the risk premium is highest.

chipEV is pretty meaningless in a format that is not a winner takes all. If I may suggest, read some articles that explain what ICM is, it will all make sense then.

Btw relevant sample sizes for SNGs are in thousands of games, for hypers it's perhaps 10,000 tournaments.
Thanks for the reply. Completely agree after researching as well as getting some more volume in.

I realise now that even if you have an edge at the game you are playing, variance can also make your C Net Adj. (EV) line go down which I didn't think about before since many variables cannot be accounted for e.g. running into opponent's top of range, all-ins from other villains (not including you) not going your way, bad spot/card distribution etc.

So even if you make a sound theoretical play that is according to ICMIZER +EV, your EV line can still go down as a result e.g. shoving A10s 10bb deep from SB into 11bb stack in BB who calls with AKs - ofc a +EV play but will be seen byPT4 as a C Net minus.

Grinding to hit 10k tournaments in about 3 weeks.

Last edited by MBGPOLO; 02-07-2024 at 01:55 AM.
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