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10-21-2009 , 10:40 AM
Would this be a spewy c-bet giving my stack size? Bet size; shove?
Poker Stars $5.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 9 players
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UTG+2: t14902 M = 66.23
Hero (MP1): t4547 M = 20.21
MP2: t3895 M = 17.31
CO: t3650 M = 16.22
BTN: t5445 M = 24.20
SB: t4715 M = 20.96
BB: t3775 M = 16.78
UTG: t15630 M = 69.47
UTG+1: t1305 M = 5.80

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is MP1 with A K
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t150, Hero raises to t600, 1 fold, CO calls t600, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls t450

Flop: (t2025) 3 7 2 (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, [color=red]Hero ?
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10-21-2009 , 10:59 AM
If cutoff and UTG+2 are somewhat tight preflop it could be pretty spewy because one of them has a good chance to be sitting on a middle pocket pair and you are going to have to put in a huge bet to get them to think about folding. A standard half size pot bet is not going to work here. Against 1 player I think you have to cBet but in this situation with your stack size I think a check is good here as CO will have a hard time betting without a pretty strong hand in many cases.
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10-21-2009 , 11:10 AM
Don't raise 4BB PF at 75/150--at this point (beginning at 50-100 really, maybe even 25-50) you want to start lowering your raise size to 3BB, and when antes kick in you can adjust it down once again to 2.5BB or slightly less to like 2.3BB depending on what the table lets you get away with. Keeping your raise size lower also lets you take stabs in 3 way pots where the smaller raise size keeps the pot in check and a potential CB (if the board comes good) is much more profitable because you can usually b/f w/o having to ponder on the pot odds much.

As played I'm not gonna CB here 3way into a small board w/ the pot size under 3-4 SPR ~. The board misses alot of their hands, but really when we bet into a pot this big we're not really getting value from anything, every single conceivable hand that wants to get AI w/ us is WA or we're less than 50:50 (even small FDs, etc). W/o reads we can't be sure what range villains will give us play with beyond that, a large # of villains will likely look u up as weak as 44-55+, etc, and the fact we're up against 2 villains is just more reason to check because betting even HU is likely bad in this kind of spot.
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10-21-2009 , 11:46 AM
I dont mind the 4BB raise here because of the limper before you. I am probably c-betting here, especially at these stakes. Reads would help in this hand especially for UTG+2.
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10-21-2009 , 11:49 AM
I guess if u c-bet ur b/c right ? b/f would be so lol regarding ur stack. I rather like c/r arrin, hoping CO takes a stab with air. If CO is betting and UTG+2 does anything other than folding I snap fold.
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10-21-2009 , 12:00 PM
Foks, w/ the limper, 4x pre is totally standard and fine, saying that it's bad, or whatever, is pretty ******ed.

Given that this board probably hit one of the players most of the time, and they won't fold any pairs, I'll just give up and feel good about it.
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10-21-2009 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by HotKarlMC
Foks, w/ the limper, 4x pre is totally standard and fine, saying that it's bad, or whatever, is pretty ******ed.

Given that this board probably hit one of the players most of the time, and they won't fold any pairs, I'll just give up and feel good about it.
+1

I think Foks missed that UTG+1 limped in.
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10-21-2009 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HotKarlMC
Foks, w/ the limper, 4x pre is totally standard and fine, saying that it's bad, or whatever, is pretty ******ed.

Given that this board probably hit one of the players most of the time, and they won't fold any pairs, I'll just give up and feel good about it.
I missed the limper in the HH friend.
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10-21-2009 , 12:22 PM
Ok, no problem. But I think, still without the limper I prefer it to 3x pre at this level, there is no need to go smaller pre-ante, esp in tourneys were people are going to call way to wide pre anyways
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