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03-15-2011 , 02:33 AM
taking some time off is a great idea imo
chill and dont even *** w poker for a week or two...when you get back youll likely enjoy playing more. when i grind a few months straight 6/7 days i get to the point where i dont even really like/have fun while playing....took a bit of time off/away from it, then came back more focused, and enjoying things more and played better...
last thought..
if your not on your a game on stars....things can be real tough, ppl are so ***** good...take a week off and come back fired up/ ready to play your aplus game
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03-15-2011 , 02:49 AM
register for everything, win 1 thing a day
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03-15-2011 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by sirswish6
register for everything, win 1 thing a day
best advice I've seen in awhile fwiw
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03-15-2011 , 03:17 AM
swing the ricky more when deep in mtt's

Last edited by threatnasty; 03-15-2011 at 03:18 AM. Reason: and beat AK with J4hh
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03-15-2011 , 04:04 AM
I'm pretty sure you are very good if you are who I think you are. I'm not sure if your downswing is making you play worse but if you are maintaining the same "A" game I wouldn't get too hung up about it. Just play some video games or go out and have some fun and play poker when you feel like it.
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03-15-2011 , 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by threatnasty
swing the ricky more when deep in mtt's
flat tire???
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03-15-2011 , 05:56 AM
So here's my advice to you I have never really grind mtt's but I think this advice will work cause it works in 45's and 90's. When you running try your best to stay out of uncontrollable situation's. Basically FIND a way to control ever aspect of every thing. From reading your opponents thoughts making him put chips in the pot make him not want to when hes got you. Find a way to control everything. Never all in inless its a must. STEAL STEAL STEAL and steal some god damn more cause that will give you cushion for those times you can't control those damn cards. I guess I'm just trying to say use every tool you have to not give yourself a way to lose if that's possible. Hope I wrote this right and it helps.
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03-15-2011 , 06:03 AM
wank!
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03-15-2011 , 07:44 AM
This thread on staying positive attracted some solid responses from good MTT'ers:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...sitive-961970/

Personally, when I downswing I find the following helpful: adequate rest; socialising; exercise; non-poker related reading/study; taking a week off from poker; and holidays.

Good luck.
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03-15-2011 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by frzn assets
Then again I don't NEEEEED the money so I'm in a different spot than someone that does....


keep giving to those who need then.or stop playin.

lock.
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03-15-2011 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by sirswish6
register for everything, win 1 thing a day
I do, but how much do I lose....???
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03-15-2011 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by clownklauen


keep giving to those who need then.or stop playin.

lock.
OMG, soooo tired, see below from my first post...

"Lemme guess, play through, 4-tabling HU 50-100 with you.... lol"
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03-15-2011 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CiB
This thread on staying positive attracted some solid responses from good MTT'ers:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...sitive-961970/

Personally, when I downswing I find the following helpful: adequate rest; socialising; exercise; non-poker related reading/study; taking a week off from poker; and holidays.

Good luck.
This sounds very good to me, verrryyy verrryyyy goood...
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03-15-2011 , 10:40 AM
I've played alot vs you. Drop way down in limits bro. When even i think ur bad, you are pretty ****ty.

Frzn Assets 6,947 -$2 $58 7% -$12,738 - 74 PokerStars

Frzn Assets 6,069 $1 $37 9% $7,798 - N/A PokerStars S<=100

Frzn Assets 3,356 $1 $26 13% $4,957 - N/A PokerStars S<=50 Sch. Only


from 30-200 ur down nearly 20k. So ur a marginally winning micro-low player and ur a solid losing midstakes + player. Get coaching, work loads on ur game. gl
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03-15-2011 , 10:42 AM
Ya, I think this has a lot less to do with negative variance than you think.

PM sent.
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03-15-2011 , 11:10 AM
In my limited experience with u I'd have to agree with the 2 ppl above.
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03-15-2011 , 11:15 AM
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In my limited experience with u I'd have to agree with the 2 ppl above.
Looks like I gots my work cut out for me... Thanks for the insight.
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03-15-2011 , 06:29 PM
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Just wondering if i should fast forward to the end of the negative EV trend by sitting out for a while. I mean the way the graph is trending is sick, its a straight line down...
Just wanted to point out that the total winnings line is always going to be straight down until you come in 1st in a tourney. Any other position and your just be negative however many chips you started the tourney with...
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03-15-2011 , 06:38 PM
03-15-2011 , 09:18 PM
Uhh what is this graph of? How did you immediately lose all profits back after your big score
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03-15-2011 , 10:57 PM
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Uhh what is this graph of? How did you immediately lose all profits back after your big score
uhhhh, i haven't had a big score yet, just a bunch of small scores, the graph is a All-In equity value vs chip winnings, it shows my chip winnings way below my all in equity so it means I'm running bad, not getting it in bad. And I haven't lost all my profits back, I'm driving a chunk of my profits around right now!!
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03-15-2011 , 11:00 PM
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Just wanted to point out that the total winnings line is always going to be straight down until you come in 1st in a tourney. Any other position and your just be negative however many chips you started the tourney with...
That is not the case, the graph is a All-In equity vs Tournament Chip Winnings so the correlation is between the equity of the hand when all in and the tournament chips won, not actual money won, so if I was running EV the lines would be the same and not running away from each other. The top lines show my all in hands have positive equity and the space in between the lines is what the difference (run good, run bad) is...
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03-16-2011 , 01:54 AM
swallow your pride

move down

rebuild
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03-16-2011 , 02:21 AM
i think you should stop, few days or a week, and play in other site,i always do that when i have really a lot of bad beats in one, i dont think you will have the same downswing, and if you have..something is wrong!
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03-16-2011 , 02:50 AM
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That is not the case, the graph is a All-In equity vs Tournament Chip Winnings so the correlation is between the equity of the hand when all in and the tournament chips won, not actual money won, so if I was running EV the lines would be the same and not running away from each other. The top lines show my all in hands have positive equity and the space in between the lines is what the difference (run good, run bad) is...

Sorry, but he is absolutely right, and you are mistaken. Since we cannot quit in tournament poker, you are forced to lose your chips every single time you do not win the tournament. Therefore, you will have negative chip winnings almost all the time. It is impossible for those lines to ever run close together like they can in cash games when you are running at expectation unless you were to graph it in terms of BBs instead of tournament chips. I don't know if that is possible using your program or not.

If you really want to see how well you are running, the best way is to compare your winrate to your expected winrate. So pull up bb/100 and EVbb/100, and if EVbb/100 is the larger number than you are running below expectation in all in pots.

Last edited by Halowax; 03-16-2011 at 02:58 AM.
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