I don't know if this is the right place to post this.
I was playing in alive R+A Tournament. The Buy in was 50$ and you would get 1500 in chips. I took rebuy at the start and after one hour add on was offered for 50$ you would get 3000 in chips. Blinds were about to be 150/300 ante 25, there was 26 players left with average stack being (with add ons) about 3500, I had about 6000. the prizes were 1) 2100 2) 1400 3) 700. for another 50$ my stack would be about 9000 and I was wondering what is the right decision: to take the add on or not. I figured out not to do it since then I would not have that many chips more then the rest, although I would have 50% over average stack.
How do i orientate in this kind of situation?

always take the addon imo

Always addon so you have the biggest stack to play with.

I always try and take the add on, some tourney's offer a better deal for the addon, and that usually dictates as to whether I play the tourney or not.

I rebuy at the start if possible and always addon

I was a hoping for a more thorough explanation, but it looks like there is a rule for this and everybody knew it (but me), .

I dont always add on. In my local casino the pay out structure isnt that great, so to maximize my ROI, I dont want to invest as much. Our tournament offers 1 rebuy and 1 add on. Some people choose to play super aggro with first buy in to build their stack. I tend to sit and pick them off to build mine. If I am average stack or below, i will add on to give myself a chance. But if I am near the top I wont. I know I can take advantage of these guys this early still. But the blinds go up so fast, within 1-2 levels it wont really make a whole lot of a difference as you are gonna have to get it in anyway.

If the payout is worth it to you, then take it. But if you are at a table with some fish still in it, focus on taking their money and it should be just fine.

I always add-on. Much rather be able to have the most options of play available. At a certain point with stacks getting shallow you become limited.

Always rebuy/addon. More chips = +ev. If you can't afford the rebuys and addons you're playing outside proper brm.

unless you dont actually have an edge in a tourney....

but lets be real, we are always +ev in everything

Even if we have a significant edge vs the field. More chips will give us more of a significant edge, so always addon.

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ya thats not what i said...

Yes always addon ESP when you get the chips at half price like in this situation.

No brainer addon spot.


The only time you might not consider adding on is if you have a dominating chip stack and the addon amount is such a small % of your stack it doesn't make any difference. Which is very very rare

Rarely if ever is there a good reason to not take an add-on, although there are a couple interesting spots where I don't rebuy before the add-on in certain satellites.

Generally agree that you always add on and you should only play in games where your bankroll can allow you to take the add on. Also, fact that only 3 get paid shows that we are going to need every chip we can get our hands on.

That might seem like a stupid comment but for some reason it feels 10x harder to make top 3 in a field of 30 than it is to make too 30 in a field of 300 (why is that?)

My theory: Smaller tournaments usually have small stacks and are at smaller casinos with crazy blind structures. So getting deep is hard because blinds go up so fast and you have to rely a little more on luck.

I want to punch myself in the face when I get distracted and dont add-on or forget the auto add-on button. so that should tell you my thoughts.

Absolutely agree with this rule. F.e. I do not take add-on when it is less than +20% to my stack.

The only scenario when you don't add on is when you are really short and the add on doesn't keep you up with the blind structure. I'm sure there could be some insane scenario where an add on would be 1% of your stack but even if this is the case I don't think it is mathematically wrong to take the add on, it is however wrong if you are extremely short.

I think you have a thread about this in the 2+2 library where some guy go to great length to explain this if you don't believe me.

I'd say you do wrong if you act like this. Keeping up with the field is probably more EV then saving money by not adding on. You already have money sunk into the tournament and what you are paying for is to "keep your part" of the prize pool. If you don't add on you will give up the 'cumulative value' of going all in and doubling up.

It may be marginal in some cases but I doubt there are many cases where this is true.

I was under the impression not paying for the addon was tantamount to giving up on the tourney, so if you intend to see it through, you pay the extra for the add. Makes sense to me..

When you like a big stack to play with, always take the addon

And I can't say as I've met any half decent players that would t prefer a big stack to a short or medium one, too much variance...

I also think most decent players prefer a big stack. The only reason i can think of of not taking the addon is that u give up spending money in The Tournament because other players might be way better... But w/ this stack, should take the addon

I think that we are pretty much in agreement that you take the adding. Additionally BRM question, for those who grind volume mtts, do we calculate the cost of a R+A tournament as the original cost x3 or do people have another way of looking at it (for example, does a 3r count as $9 or more because we might rebuy multiple times?)