PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 0.5 Tournament, 150/300 Blinds 25 Ante (3 Spieler) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://de.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Hero (BB) (t7,288)
Button (t3,944)
SB (t2,268)

Hero's M: 13.88

Preflop: Hero ist BB mit A, 4
1 fold, SB raises to t900, Hero raises to t7,263 (All-In), SB calls t1,343 (All-In)

Flop: (t4,561) J, 9, Q (2 Spieler, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t4,561) 5 (2 Spieler, 2 all-in)

River: (t4,561) 6 (2 Spieler, 2 all-in)

Gesamt Pot: t4,561

Ergebnisse : [spoiler]
SB hat K, 3 (flush, King high).
Hero hat A, 4 (high card, Ace).
Ergebnis: SB gewinnt t4,561[/spoiler]

wow. spoiler was a surprise. I mean when I read post im like of course hes got better I mean hes raised so large of his small stack your shove has no fe. but then seeing what he showed down hes obviously a lunatic 3xing then calling of that stack!!!
You obviously have adjusted to this donk fish and he bad beated you. don't sweat it.

@URamnatha
well, the SB probably will be a fish (who is not a fish in 0.50$ games?) but lets forget this is a 0.50$ SNG for a minute.

do you think K3s is not a good shove in this spot? because it absolutely is (his 900 bet with his stack is basically a non all in all in and you can treat it as a shove. in these limits you maybe even have FE on a 3bet). i would shove even wider than that against a reg. i dont think hero would be calling as wide as he should so i would go even wider than nash. probably ATC or very close to it.

hero? whats your calling range vs a reg in this spot?

ummm. yeah I see your point my 3 way play is dominated by the icm bubble as I play 6 max so im trying to exclude that from my thinking.

I don't think sb shove is a nash shove is it??? as hero can call wider due to larger stack. Id rather shove say k8 off into a reg. And I think that would be a good shove.

As regards a non all in all in. mmm. its just that fish often 3x bet when its just not an appropriate bet sizing. If you wanted to non all all in what bet sizing would you use. Im thinking something larger? not sure if you were a reg at this level you would think a 3x committing bet would have more fe then a shove as people are used to seeing 3x bets all the time.

And im a bit confused how a bet can be both a non all in all in and there also be a chance of a 3 bet having fe?

We don't know if villain is a reg or a fish do we. I mean is he even close to nash?

mmm yeah maybe your right. maybe k3s is a nash shove? have you run it? ( im waiting for hrc full subscription to come through)

Even in 6 max K3s is well within nash pushing range so your guess is way off.

In 9 max he can push wider obv.

mm I just ran it through hrc ( first time I ve used it not from one of my imported hands, so hope ive not made a mistake).
I think K3s is just outside a nash shove at -0.07 so yeah your right in game its probably a shove as even a slighter calling range then nash would make shoving profitable.
If a non all in all in does also add fe! then yeah villain played it well Id still prefer a bigger bet though. say 1500.
What bet sizing for a non all in all in would you use? I mean its all about psychology not math so what in this spot do you think has more fe? how about 995 maybe makes it look like your trying to make bet smaller as sub a 1000.

ohh I probably have made a mistake I get it as being just very marginally outside nash. can you run it for me please? As I want to make sure that I can analyse non imported hands and reach correct conclusions, and it appears ive made a mistake.

Id really appreciate it.

well K3s is a clear nash shove. even Q2s is a shove. its something around 55-60%. nash calling range is something around 40%. but if hero is not calling that wide and hes calling something like 30% and less, then its an ATC shove.

what im saying is that if someone is betting something weird and you dont think you have FE, then treat it as if he just shoved, but on these stakes it is possible that someone can bet 40% of his stack and then fold if you 3bet.

well since this is a 0.50$ game and op didnt post any additional info...

i dont think there are many good regs on these limits. as i said, lets forget this is a 0.50$ cent game. im looking at this from my perspective as a villain against hero.

nash calculation:
i will treat the 900 as a shove.

SB shove : 54.6%, 22+ Kx+ Q2s+ Q8o+ J4s+ J8o+ T5s+ T8o+ 95s+ 98o 85s+ 87o 74s+ 64s+ 53s+
BB call: 37.3%, 22+ Ax+ K2s+ K5o+ Q7s+ Q9o+ J8s+ JTo T9s

i was close enough.

9max 5/3/2 payout

SB push:
FGS depth 3: 60.0%, 22+ Kx+ Q2s+ Q6o+ J3s+ J8o+ T4s+ T7o+ 95s+ 97o+ 84s+ 87o 74s+ 76o 64s+ 53s+

no FGS: 54.6%, 22+ Kx+ Q2s+ Q8o+ J4s+ J8o+ T5s+ T8o+ 95s+ 98o 85s+ 87o 74s+ 64s+ 53s+

you made a mistake somewhere. post the hand setup.

this is how it should look like:
http://ft.trillian.im/efa6257197fce8...mi4fXnLHMm.jpg

Thank you both I appreciate it

ahh yeah 45.1 percent shove range (no fgs). Ooops noob error got the stacks wrong way round. Nothing complicated just being an idiot.
Wow that's pretty wide I guess im still not shoving wide enough from sb then.

one thing ,you know after you adjust a range and run a ficticious play is there an easy way to go back to the unadjusted nash range without reentering all the data?

go back to hand setup and run it again. data from the last hands is always there. you dont have to retype anything.

Thank you. also note I got 45.1 percent not 54% - still got it wrong lol # hangs head in shame

post a screenshot of your hand setup.

Without calculating it, seems rather standard to me.

Guy's not folding but your hand is still good. His raise is fine and your shove is fine I think. Sometimes he'll stack you with that king anyway.