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05-29-2008 , 12:20 AM

Pocono Drew

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Sorry no converter as this was on Bodog. $50 buy-in tourney. We are about 6 away from the money. Average stack is about 19K. Villain is a solid player and CL who has been opening a ton of pots.

Blinds 400/800/100

2 folds.

Villian (46K) in MP1 raises to 2200
Hero (9

) in MP2 (33K) reraises to 5400

Everyone folds back to villain who calls.

Pot is about 12K.

Flop: 2

Villain bets 6500.

Hero?

Also what is the plan for turn and river?

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05-29-2008 , 12:24 AM

Dunkman

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If you call this 6.5k bet, the pot is 25k and you have 21k left...so, it's decision time right now. No reason to just flat because there's a lot more cards on the turn that are gonna make us feel worse than better. Go with your reads, he's loose and agro, and that bet looks like a stab to take you off of AK or whatever. Long story short, I think you have to shove here.

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05-29-2008 , 01:52 AM

redshift83

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all in std

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05-29-2008 , 02:03 AM

unrealzeal

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Make your decision b4 flop on what you are going to do on a rag flop. That's why mid-pairs are tough, they force us to plan ahead, so we have to read it well pf.

As standard, villain doesn't do this close to the bubble without a big hand, so it's either a big hand or bluff - and the best time to bluff is near bubble.

As played, I see this as too weak a lead to be anything special, so I think you are good here.

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05-29-2008 , 02:43 AM

drew5927

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allllllllinnnnnn !

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05-29-2008 , 06:45 AM

dj_mercury

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Your reraise was so small because you wanted him to call with worse or? If that's the case you have reached your goal and you have also gained an extrabet from him, shove and hope he didn't called your reraise with TT-QQ (KK - AA if he is tricky). Still I don't like your 3bet at all, especially because of the size, you are giving him really good odds and you will hate a lot of flops, this in theory at least is not one of them.

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05-29-2008 , 07:15 AM

Pocono Drew

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I reraised pre a smaller amount to indicate strength (seen a lot of folks doing that lately), but to get away with minimal damage in case he pushed.

I did push, figuring he would need a monster to call. Which is what he had.

He had a set of 4's. (hit his quads on the turn LOL). Expertly played by him imo as I read his lead as a probe bet to get me off AK/AQ.

Thanks all for the responses. It was a tough hand for me.

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05-29-2008 , 07:23 AM

gobbo

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I don't like preflop at all. Either rr a decent amount and snapcall a shove or just call. My default line is to just call.

On the flop, you definitely are continuing with the hand and depending on what kind of player he is I either like shoving or calling. If you have never really seen him fold postflop I like shoving, if you see him take lots of stabs at things with garbage then I like calling.

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05-29-2008 , 08:42 AM

zachjackdad

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I don't agree with overplaying 99 like this close to the bubble. You basically shoved hoping he was bluffing because really you beat nothing. Just because he is CL and aggressive doesn't mean he is an idiot.

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05-29-2008 , 08:57 AM

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areaman

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its time to shove and deal with the consequences

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05-29-2008 , 02:12 PM

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drew5927

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I also normally like to flat call preflop, but considering this is the bubble maybe 99 could be a raise. As mentioned raising larger amount preflop may increase your fold equity somewhat...chances are he's calling anyway tho since its bodog.

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I don't agree with overplaying 99 like this close to the bubble. You basically shoved hoping he was bluffing because really you beat nothing

he beats plenty of stuff. lots of players will donk-bet/fold here, stack off with a4 suited etc. also its fairly hard to 'overplay' 99 on the bubble

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05-29-2008 , 02:29 PM

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flippetyflop

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Originally Posted by gobboboy

If we reraise and villian shoves...why are we ever snap calling?

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05-29-2008 , 07:24 PM

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Pocono Drew

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Originally Posted by gobboboy

Thanks for replying, Jimmy and congrats on your new mod-dom.

I'd seen him fold to a couple of 3 bets in past few orbits, so I had a feeling he might be opening light. Like I stated earlier, I didn't want to commit a ton of chips pre-flop w/99. If he had a monster, I figured he would shove pf and I could get away. When he just called, I figured that he had suiteds, AK/AQ or a smallish pp. If I just call, then I really don't know where I'm at and I probably still lose some serious chips with that flop.

Can you explain to me your reasoning for snap calling a shove PF?

Thanks.

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