No info on villain. Looks like i fudged up here right?

No Limit Hold'em Tournament T500/T1 000
Buy-in: $6.69+$0.81 USD Hold'em No Limit
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7 players
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Stacks:
UTG - UTG (T39 135)
UTG+1 - Hero (T88 183)
MP - MP (T64 747)
CO - CO (T10 847)
BTN - BTN (T25 767)
SB - SB (T95 081)
BB - BB (T55 317)

Preflop: (T2 375, 7 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K K
1 fold, Hero raises to T2 000, 4 folds, BB calls T1 000

Flop: 2 6 T (T5 375, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets T2 000, BB raises to T8 000, Hero calls T6 000

Turn: 6 (T21 375, 2 players)
BB bets T13 000, Hero calls T13 000

River: 3 (T47 375, 2 players)
BB bets T32 192 (all-in), 1 fold, Uncalled bet of T32 192 returned to BB

Total Pot: T47 375

BB wins T47 375

Why min raise pre? Then 40% pot post, then call? I think I'm more aggressive in both spots. If he flopped a set, well good for him.

From V's perspective, could easily be two big cards that took a stab post, or a pair under the 10 taking a shot. I think he has a lot of AT, KT, etc.

I think you've under repped your hand. I guess I call, but I'm no good. Interested to hear others' opinions.

I agree with gold dog. I think we call here bc in a $7mtt online- villian can do this K-10 or A-10 thinking it’s the nuts. As played feel our hand is super underrepped. Just bad luck if we lose to some of the x raise range but don’t think we should think too much in a $7 mtt online.

I’m ok with min sizing if stacks are super shallow but as shown I think you can go 2200 or 2500 as an exploit as we want chips in the middle. Maybe villian got sneaky with jj or qq? Unlikely qq but it’s an overpair and some people play weird passive. I would like this spot a lot more if spr was lower but not much we can do to make it lower unless it goes 3bet by villian pre. I would be more willing to stack off here Vs against a tight live player doing the same line bc not a lot of bluffs I would think.

What exactly do you think he has that beats you?

Hi OP

First and most important step is to accurately range V check raise.

- Fairly common to find V will cr Tx on Txx (and Jx on Jxx)
- Very common to find all the flush+gutshot combo draws and Axcc nut flush draws in cr range
- less common to find 2pr with 62 T6 and T2o all folding pre at some frequency
- all sets are in range 22 66 TT
- mid pair 6x check raises are common (see Janda book)
- there’s always other stuff at low frequency, from flush draws to ‘range advantage air’

So it’s a rough spot to range precisely but you get the idea

I think your response to the cr is understandable, especially holding Kc for some flush blockers. But if you consider how small the set and 2pr part of the cr range is, I think the better response here is just to pile pressure back on the V and commit stacks. V clearly has equity we want to charge or deny. You also still rep cc and will get stubborn calls from worse.

Turn 6 interesting.

It reduces the set and 2pr combos, but there wasn’t a heap of them. However it DID help the 6x second pairs and there are loads of them. It’s a good card for V to keep barrelling and empty the clip.

Given that large 6x segment just improved I’d prefer to fold here knowing that you’re facing a river jam. Calling turn and folding river is burning chips.

A) most 7$ players have not read Janda and even if they have they're probably not applying every concept in there
B) villain most likely has a Ten nearly every time. I also doubt he sizes that large on the turn with any boat or quads as he can still set up for a potsize river jam with just a 8k turn bet.
C) Folding at any point in this hand is a giant error

It's important to recognise what this fold means. You are essentially saying villain has zero bluffs and doesn't value bet worse. That's one hell of a read to make, especially when you say that you actually have no info on the opponent.



I include the equilibrium response only to highlight how big a fold this is - again it's fine to make big folds but it seems like you had no reason to based on your post. AA (KK got all in on a previous street, but effectively the same as AA here) is winning 40bb with a call. Fwiw I think the EV will be lower vs some random player as maybe they bluff a little less or don't value bet wide enough. So how to adjust vs that?

You see we should be calling down as wide as AQ high here. So maybe we fold all that, fold the pocket pairs and we are already exploiting him. If we have a very strong read maybe we fold Tx too. You would need an incredibly strong read - one which you will rarely have - to fold KK simply because we beat a bunch of value

This kind of hands are very useful for me in my attempts to re-starting my poker career (as a rec player that is).

If you are a bit of a weaktight player (which defininately is true for me) your gut always starts telling you this story: "OMG what can he have? It must be a set. Surely it's a set!" Or at least "OMG he tried to make me fold OTF with 76 and now he turned trips!"

There's also some stupid form of shame from previous hands when you bet/called down to the river, only to find that your overpair was up against a set. It always felt embarassing to me.

Somehow this sort of feelings are there even though we know there were times when we called (or they called our bet) OTR and we actually had the best hand.

That's the emotional aspect of it. Feelings those of us who struggle with 'em has to practise to overcome when in play.


If we do that we will realise that a random player - even at this low stake - likely has at least a somewhat wider range. And then we look at the pot odds: They're almost 2,50:1 for calling villain OTR. Even if oldsilvers hand range should be a bit to optimistic that means that a call will be clearly profitable even if villain has a set or trips 2 times out of 3: About 5,5 bb on average.

Also, since this is tournament play: I would factor in the fact that we cover villain. If beaten, we still have +30bb left. Whereas even if we're only good here 1 time out of 3 that third time this call really will chip us up, giving us what likely is a very good stack at this moment.

I'm with Nath, I think we really only lose to 222 here. I would seldom expect villain to have TTT (a low stakes player may 3b sometimes pre but usually will call, and also don't expect them to x raise right away on flop with nuts and instead to just call to slowplay (same could be said for a lot of low stakes players with any set here)) I could see villain even value shoving AT against us here. I wish we didn't have the Kc (would make this call even better since he could have some more missed club draws like KQcc KJcc etc) but still think I'm calling here and expecting 222 sometimes, AT and some missed club draws. If the six didn't pair the turn, I think we have more to worry bout but that basically rules 666 out as well.

66 much less likely, but definitely would be concerned that he has 76s, 86s, etc., some portion of the time, especially something like 6x of clubs. Agree with the analysis that it is still a shrug call due to all the Tx, the missed clubs, the "he put you on AK" factore, etc.