Poker Stars $72+$6 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 6 players
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SB: t1370
BB: t1070
UTG: t985
MP: t2650
CO: t1435
Hero (BTN): t1490

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with A 3
3 folds, Hero raises to t90, 1 fold, BB raises to t150, Hero calls t60

Flop: (t315) A 5 6 (2 players)
BB bets t300, Hero calls t300

Turn: (t915) 8 (2 players)
BB bets t300, Hero calls t300

River: (t1515) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero?

Villian is a moron. Please critique every street.

Well first of as played id check river, but id also fold pf. Even if he is a moron I dont see how it can be very profitable with junk like A3o in 3 bet pot so early.

Yeah it's just that freaking ghey super-minraise. I can't tell you how many times I shove over that and they insta-fold. I guess I'm paranoid about being exploited. I just feel like I have to call and at least try to suck out if they do have the monster.

Plus that thing is QQ+ sooo often. And if you do spike the ace they usually feel stupid about their KK/QQ minbet and try to push you off the pot. That's the thinking anyway.

I dno i clearly dont have experience in that kinda lines because i always fold junk pf. So they try to push you off ace with QQ, shove turn, you call with A3 and look at A9? I dno, doesnt sound good to me at all .

Fold pre, if not, def fold the flop, if not, def check the river.

if we call pre calling the flop is mandatory - dunno aboot river, i'd probly bet a blank for value but here this might be a better ace scared of the flush but still c/c ing so I check behind too.
Edit: just noticed from Lil'Jos posting that he's only got 300 left, i'm putting him in as well.

I agree that this bet flop/turn same size and check river line is QQ KK JJ type of hand here a lot.
folding pre is fine obviously, a3 is just rly badly playable.
but we get so good odds that its not a crime.

i may open A3o from button, but once i get min raised i am just folding preflop. i feel dumb when i have to fold to that silly min raise, but i feel a lot dumber when i call and spew postflop.

as played i guess i call flop and then i really want to fold turn but that small bet with the big pot probably makes me spew again. villian only has 300 left so i just go ahead and put his ass in on the river. i'm guessing he has KK or QQ at this point. man is he gonna be pissed to get stacked with KK on an Axxxx board.

Fold preflop. A-3 is crap.

After he min-raises you, I only think calling is fine if you have some sort of specific read....but it doesn't seem like we have that, so just fold. After that I'd probably play it the same....and a check on the river.

Also, I'd worry less about being exploited. You'll have plenty of chances to gain your edges in better situations than this.

I dunno. My experience, <pot sized bet means under pair . Regardless folding the flop still leaves us with 1350 and bb 30, calling the flop kinda commits us. I just think it much better to live to fight another day in good shape with a decent stack.

I checked. AK. Who the **** plays AK that way?

well, at least you saved a few chips...

I was gonna ask what he had cause I just didnt think he'd be betting the turn with KK here (in all likelihood he'd bet the flop... but no way to know how much he would bet).... and.... I want to find out what people do this min-reraise with. I posted it awhile ago, but no one answered, cause for some reason everyone thought I was asking 'when is it ok for me to min-reraise'... lol

Anyways, I open fold preflop, I fold to the reraise, and I may or may not call the flop but I think again folding is best.

Definitely fold turn, check river.... LOL I mean basically I just dont like A3, and def not with this action. You're praying he has KK and that you'll hit an A and he will still be betting KK regardless of the A.


EDIT: FWIW I've seen this play a lot with AK. I don't see a lot of merits for it OOP, but that doesn't matter. You just gotta get in their head and figure why they're doing it.

I've also seen it with KK and AA, so I generally don't know what to do when I see this move (like late game lets say you raise 3x 150 to 450 with JJ and the button does this.. what do you do?

Yeah the thinking is usually it's something like AA-QQ. Generally people don't feel comfortable enough with AK to minraise. But I guess some do.

Yeah, I agree with the comfort point, I usually stay away and assume QQ+ but man does it bother me sometimes. I need to figure out when people do it with AK and when its QQ+. Man thatd be valuable info.. if reliable.

I play Ongame 30s-50s, and 50% of my opponents do that minraising **** too, and usually insta-fold when I shove. I would fold A3 pre-flop, but as played I wouldn't fold into that gayraise. I'd play every street same as you, and expect to see two random suited cards in the showdown.

Interesting cannotletgo........... thanks

His turn bet would generally lead me to believe Ax is good alot of the time so prob just shove turn cause he has so little, get draws to call and such.

as played on the riv check, imo pf and flop play themselves.

Would you fold AJ here preflop? Because it's a very similar hand if we are assuming this is a monster a high % of the time. Even AQ. If an ace comes you aren't going to be too nuts about it. So the hand would still play out very similar to this.

I fold AQ (to min reraise).. the huge blunder you can potentially make by playing this when it hits and is behind is not worth defending my 90 chips. Youll be so pissed you got so defensive over a measly 90 chips when you lose 900+.

Now, if he does the same thing again later I'm not really gonna think AQ is bad, but the first time, level 2... I'm not gonna worry about getting involved.

Late game is a dif story and I'm certainly going to rethink my AQ but still not feel good about it. My main point is that its only 90 chips so who cares.

I don't mind opening with A3 preflop, but i would much rather have something like T9 or 45s, and because A3 is the bottom of your range (hopefully?) you can fold it to a 3bet without being exploitable.

Yeah maybe fold and make a note is the best plan.