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6max Hyper SNGs ICMIZER Question 6max Hyper SNGs ICMIZER Question

07-07-2023 , 01:35 PM
For context I'm new to SNGs and MTTs but I've done a lot of solver work for cash games in the past. I've started working on 6max hypers and yesterday I downloaded ICMIZER.

I generally understand that changing the FGS in the UI causes the solver to take future game into consideration, but can someone help me to understand exactly what's going on the following two solutions?

HH:

Ignition $10+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150)
6-max Seat #3 is the button

Seat 1: BB Hero (1,960 in chips)
Seat 2: CO (685 in chips)
Seat 3: BTN (115 in chips)
Seat 4: SB (240 in chips)

SB: posts small blind 75
Hero: posts big blind 150

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Q 2]

CO: folds
BTN: calls 115 and is all-in
SB: raises 165 to 240 and is all-in
Hero: folds


Solution 1 (FGS 0):



As you can see, folding any two cards here is a punt according to this sim. This makes sense as I'm getting >5 to 1 to call. It's obviously very +cEV to call with anything and it's hard to imagine ICM could shift things so dramatically that I can fold Q2o.


Solution 2 (FGS 3):



After factoring in 3 positions into the future, the shift in strategy is absolutely massive. The EV of calling drops by about 1.7-1.9% of the prize pool (that's the unit of measure here right?) for every combo in my range. I guess it makes sense that I really don't want to give away 90 of my chips to either of these players since those chips are going to be very valuable for them, and extending the bubble is good for me since I have over half the chips in play, but are those factors really so important that they're worth giving away my cEV in this pot?

Basically I just want to make sure I'm using this program in a productive way and not misunderstanding or misapplying outputs. I have a lot of experience with PIO and I know it has a lot of pitfalls that can cause solutions to have no application to reality, so I want to make sure I'm not doing something similar here. Any help in understanding this spot and this program in general would be greatly appreciated.
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07-23-2023 , 09:08 PM
Even though the pot odds are tremendous, you have an atc push next hand so ending the bubble is disastrous.

Let's think of the 2 possibilities if we fold:
CO wins, SB then has like 75 chips in the BTN and is likely to give us 2+ excellent pushes as it may be 3-4 players for a while
SB wins, SB goes to BTN with 3bb and current CO goes to BB and we have 1+ excellent pushes. often current CO and SB will trade some chips while we get many excellent pushes.
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