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10-05-2010 , 03:59 PM

mckrogh

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Absolute Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75.00/t150.00 Blinds - 4 players
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Hero (BTN): t1860.00 12.40 BBs
SB: t1465.00 9.77 BBs
BB: t1185.00 7.90 BBs
CO: t8990.00 59.93 BBs

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is SB with ?

1 fold, Hero raises to t1860,

SB is tight and I've played him a lot - Def. calling to tight. Stats is 17/16 and folding BB to steal% 91 over 283 hands filtered.

BB is also tight, but he is that good that he will adjust his callingranges. Ive also played him before. His stats is 23/19 and folded BB to steal% 81%.

Both players are winners at these stakes. I know this is a pretty simple wiz-spot. But how wide would you shove here?

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10-05-2010 , 04:15 PM

mavs

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Maybe ~50%.

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10-05-2010 , 04:24 PM

thenextlevel1

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Originally Posted by mavs

Maybe ~50%.

It would be 50% of they are only calling ATo+A8s+ 44+ KQs. I find it hard to count of ppl calling that tight with 8-9bb, so you better have a good read. I would probably go with 40-45%, but against a lot of randoms it should be around 25-30% or even tighter as I just don't count on ppl to fold A5+ regardless of if it's bubble. A lot will depend on how often you have shoved.

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10-05-2010 , 10:43 PM

Monkey Banana

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At least 50%.

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10-05-2010 , 11:07 PM

elyts

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short effective stacks with high fbb2steal sounds like you should be shoving about 50% if what thenextlevel says is right, people will be calling pretty tight with 8-9bb if the stats don't lie

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10-06-2010 , 01:18 AM

WhiteRabbito

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Originally Posted by thenextlevel1

According to OP both players sound decent, winners at the stakes.

So i'm assuming that they wont be stacking off here with A5-A8 type hands on the bubble.

I think 50% is pretty reasonable.

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10-06-2010 , 05:22 AM

mckrogh

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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana

At least 50%.

How wide would you go with the reads in OP monkey?

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10-06-2010 , 08:22 AM

alexd11

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This is where the whole Wiz hand % is a let down for me, I could say oh I'm shoving 60/70% here but I'm not not gonna be shoving 54s or 43s or other hands etc.. that play well against these tight calling ranges. If that makes any sense.

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