130 players total. 13 make it to Day 2. 30 left.

Blinds are 2k-4k with a 4k BB ante.

Mid-position short-stack shoves for $43k. I'm in the CO with AQo. $170k. This places me roughly tied for second at the table with a couple others. Only monster stack is in the BB with double my stack.

I was leaning fold, convinced myself to shove, never considered calling.

What's optimal?

I think you are supposed to be flatting your entire continuing range when: 1. The shove is not tiny (11BB is plenty) and your call doesn't commit you to the pot.

This exact hand has a gross spot if, and when, BB shoves. It's probably a sigh fold, but I'd guess it is close. If you do flat your entire range, you will be protected from super wide shoves...

I would call here. MP can have a lot of Ax and pairs.

No reason to lose it all to BB when he has AK/KK/AA and even QQ. I would fold to a shove by BB.

Calling all day.

What’s the call/call range if BB shoves? AA-QQ, AKs?

Easiest call ever. Think jamming is a little meh bc you open yourself up to later action picking up a hand and you punting.

calling a 11bb shove with AQo here is +ev. Never folding. Never jamming either. If it goes jam jam behind, easiest fold ever. Ripping just strengthens the ranges behind calling which is bad.

While we're late in the day I'm guessing we're not that close to the money, so there shouldn't be bubble implications. So this will play very much like a chip-EV spot. We may want to add a little bit of a risk premium here but probably not a whole lot.

So the question isn't whether we call here (I think it's a super-easy call) but whether we'd actually call off if one of the players behind jams. And that's actually pretty close. I think my default call off range here is something like TT+, AQs+, AKo but I could be convinced that we call off slightly wider if we believe the player who comes over the top has a wider range. (and maybe we drop off stuff like TT and AQs if the player who jammed is nittier. If we get multiple players behind my call off range might literally just be QQ+, AK.

Now if there were payout implications, like being close to the bubble or final table, then our ranges tighten up significantly and then it's *possible* that we start folding things like AQo, but even then I don't think that would be the case.

I think, this is a call. You should be ahead of an 11BB open jamming range, and you are also getting a price, if the players behind fold. I dont think, there is any benefit in overshoving for 43BB, unless it was a bounty tournament, and you want to drive the players behind out. Without bounties the 11BB shove is more than enough to drive them out already, and they cant jam light, because they have no fold equity against MP. If they stick it in with a hand like A5s and get you to fold, part of the EV goes to MP, so they would just be helping him. For that reason you are only going to get shoved on by really strong hands, and AQ can be folded leaving you with a still very playable 32 BB stack. But the vast majority of the time, BTN, SB and BB are just going to get out of the way and hope, that you bust MP, so they get one step closer to the next payjump. And this is better than shipping in your entire stack and get called by someone behind, who wakes up with pocket kings.

Call/call with: AK AA KK QQ
Jam with: JJ TT
Call/fold with: AQ AJs 99 88

I think just folding 88 or AJs is totally reasonable too, live reads on jammer help w the fringe hands here. Really think you're missing out by not having calls in your range here for a number of reasons (most well explained by posts above) Also think moving 99 to jam range or TT to your call/fold range seems fine too if you don't even want much of a shove range here but I do think JJ fits nicely as a jam (not good enough to induce but way too good to call/fold)

I'm calling for sure. With the BB-Ante he's effectively shoving 5 bigs. I think AQo crushes his actual shoving range which is likely A7s+ and 66+.