i didn't note stats at the time of these hands, so take with a pinch of salt (or just ignore stats altogether)

opener 30/30 (23 hands)
3bettor 22/19 (94 hands)

would your decision change if opener was more like 18/18?

Poker Stars, $50 Buy-in (100/200 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: 1,406 (7 bb)
SB: 1,565 (7.8 bb)
Hero (BB): 4,004 (20 bb)
UTG+2: 7,043 (35.2 bb)
MP1: 2,872 (14.4 bb)
MP2: 5,488 (27.4 bb)
MP3: 3,810 (19.1 bb)
CO: 2,346 (11.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K A
UTG+2 raises to 409, MP1 raises to 2,872 and is all-in, 5 folds, Hero





opener is 14/13 over a sample of 200
CO is birs320 who plays pretty laggy, i have him at 20/14 over ~175 hands.

Poker Stars, $50 Buy-in (75/150 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

MP2: 7,089 (47.3 bb)
MP3: 3,663 (24.4 bb)
CO: 5,758 (38.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): 6,130 (40.9 bb)
SB: 3,425 (22.8 bb)
BB: 17,656 (117.7 bb)
UTG+2: 3,956 (26.4 bb)
MP1: 1,136 (7.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K A
UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to 1,136 and is all-in, 2 folds, CO raises to 5,758 and is all-in, Hero

1 is closer but I'm getting it in in both.

allin, allin. AK is a good hand

neither seem close. Im getting them in happily.

me too

number 2 seem like a very sweet spot !!

Going with both. I'm not as super psyched about hand 2 as every one else, because the dude is isolating all in with a 38bb stack pre ante when there's two stacks behind him that cover and can wake up.

going with both of them

same

both spots are great to get it in here!

this

neither of these are remotely close

Yeah 2 is def closer than 1 but both are calls

this

in #1 how wide is he shoving which makes this such an easy shove itt?

dido, both seem supastd

bad day at the tables?

ya dont fold either ever

I'd guess AQ & 77/88+


... shoving in both situations

maybe my math is off (and yes, i'm probably shoving ak in #1 with 20bb) however, with this range we need 49% and we're not getting it. I would agree his range is narrow considering his shoving utg raise, coupled with the fact that the utg player could have a hand - is there any kind of fold here?

Just fold and move on

Self promotion or distribution of result-oriented poker?

Phos, how 20/14 is relevant for this spot? Should add your 3b index as well.

Think the range is much wider..... A10s+, AJos+, kjs+, kqos, 55+

+1 and yes...both are pretty standard

lol at myself, im so bad at discussing at forums, what I wrote and meant is my callingrange for situation 1, not what he is isolate-shovving with, sorry.

He is probably shovving every pocketpair, every KJ, K 10s, A x