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09-14-2022 , 10:05 PM
Hello guys, i need help understanding this hand, should i have instafolded that AQs? Thanks.

No Limit Hold'em Tournament T3.000/T6.000
Buy-in: €22.50+€22.50+€5.00 EUR Hold'em No Limit
PokerStars
6 players

Stacks:
UTG - UTG (T412.166)
MP - MP (T294.577)
CO - CO (T227.520)
BTN - BTN (T172.553)
SB - SB (T171.328)
BB - Hero (T181.856)

Preflop: (T13.500, 6 players) Hero is BB with A Q
2 folds, CO raises to T12.000, 1 fold, SB raises to T42.000, Hero calls T36.000, CO raises to T226.770 (all-in), SB calls T128.578 (all-in), Hero calls T139.106 (all-in), Uncalled bet of T45.664 returned to CO

Flop: 8 T 2 (T537.290, 3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: 7 (T537.290, 3 players, 2 all-in)

River: 2 (T537.290, 3 players, 2 all-in)

Total Pot: T537.290
Hero shows A Q (a pair of Deuces)
CO shows A K (a pair of Deuces - Ace+King kicker)
SB shows Q Q (two pair, Queens and Deuces)

CO wins T21.056 from side pot
SB wins T516.234 from main pot
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09-14-2022 , 10:22 PM
Any ICM considerations, (i.e., are you near the bubble or significant pay jumps)? Can players re-enter? If you answer no to the first question, and yes to the second, then I think it's a good call with 30 bbs (28 bb effective).

Also looks like this is a bounty tournament based on the way the buyin was written above. You can collect two bounties with a hand that has good equity, so even more reason to call.
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09-14-2022 , 10:48 PM
Hi Bubblebust, thank you for reading my post.

This was the final table (around 180 players, turbo 10min blinds, 50€ buy in, which 20 are for bounties), 6 player left, i got 150€, other places get 50-60€ more, 1st and 2 places got 550€ , bountiess were progressive, so some players have like 50€ (even more) bounty each one, in this case i would have not received any bounty since i was the short stack. (Anyway the winnder got 550€ for the prize and more then 1000€ in bounties prizes).

My concern is that i ve just rushed to reshove, replaying the hands it was clear that SB was tight, while the CO may be a bit loose.
So you ve never considered a fold here, not even after the CO reshove and SB flat call?

Thanks.
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09-14-2022 , 10:58 PM
Final table changes quite a bit. Fold is much more reasonable here, as you are guaranteed to move up a spot with still decent chips. I think ICM fold.
I must be misreading this somehow, because this looks like you have both Vs covered:

BTN - BTN (T172.553)
SB - SB (T171.328)
BB - Hero (T181.856)

Maybe that's after blinds are posted?

Last edited by Bubblebust; 09-14-2022 at 11:17 PM.
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09-15-2022 , 08:16 AM
Final table with 6left with payjump is AQ clear fold on this action preflop.
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09-15-2022 , 12:53 PM
I am 4bet jamming originally preflop, regardless of who covers who. AQs in bb should be ahead of a sb v co 3bet range.

And as played if you do in fact have both players covered (according to your stack sizes you do) then I am pretty sure you cant fold. Both short stacks are already all in so that kinda takes away ICM pressure, and we want the big bounties late in a PKO. If you are the shortstack and are playing for no bounties then find a fold and take your paybump.

Winning this pot also makes us the chip leader and we get to be the ICM bully and give ourselves a good shot at 1st, and PKOs are top heavy.

Last edited by ledn; 09-15-2022 at 01:00 PM.
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09-15-2022 , 04:13 PM
As I read this, it says that Villain in CO covers hero. Villain in SB is covered by hero. Result of hand is that SB tripled up and CO lost most of his chips but eliminated hero and took his bounty.

Personally, I don't like to get all in versus bigger stacks with AQ when I am playing a bounty. When there is a bet and a raise in front of you it is not a super strong hand. SB may be the short stack, but he has plenty of chips so his raise and his call of the all-in by CO were not motivated by desperation. He is calling with a strong hand.
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09-15-2022 , 04:42 PM
Oh I was looking at the button's stack. Being in the middle also makes it weird and prob lean toward folding now although I still would just jam vs the 3bet to play for the sb's bounty. Plus the sb should still have some 3bet/folds off 30bb.
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09-15-2022 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 2pairsof2s
but he has plenty of chips so his raise and his call of the all-in by CO were not motivated by desperation. He is calling with a strong hand.

I think this is the most reasonable, without the SB calling the CO shove, then AQs would have been a legit call, but as you said, there was a high chance that SB had a strong hand (QQ+).

Thank you guys.
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