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02-09-2010 , 11:44 PM

UnexpectedValue

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we have to fold for ICM reasons because we're only a small fav, even if villain is pushing wide?

Poker Stars $6.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t75 - 5 players
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Hero (BB): t12335 M = 4.45
UTG: t14745 M = 5.31
CO: t23825 M = 8.59
BTN: t7405 M = 2.67
SB: t9190 M = 3.31

Pre Flop: (t2775) Hero is BB with 4

3 folds, SB raises to t9115 all in, 1 fold

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02-10-2010 , 12:36 AM

martin_malin

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if you think villain is shoving hands like A2,K2,Q8,Q5s,J9,J8s or worse you can call

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02-10-2010 , 12:49 AM

theabstract7

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has SB been shoving a lot? This spot seems kinda read dependent but against an unknown I just dump...

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02-10-2010 , 12:36 PM

UnexpectedValue

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i mean i'm pretty sure he's shoving at least 40%, i'm confident i'm ahead of his range...but is it that whole thing of the value of winning the pot not worth it compared to the equity lost when i lose the pot? since i'm almost always a 54/46 here or w/e

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02-10-2010 , 04:22 PM

Longy

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There is no answer we can give you without a read. It is a call against some villians and fold against others.

I look at my HUD here and make a decision based on that.

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02-10-2010 , 05:26 PM

UnexpectedValue

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ok, so what % does he have to be pushing to make this a call? i sort of posted this because i was under the impression that even if villain was pushing ATC or close to that, this might still be an icm fold

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02-10-2010 , 07:04 PM

Aces Suited

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I usually snap this. Even with tournament odds, a call vs a randoms SB shoving range with a csi of 3, which is pretty wide, will be profitable.

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