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08-19-2014 , 02:59 PM

LoveFish2013

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 346

Hi,

Quick checkup. I normally shove this with 20bb but is it a leak if you do that from that position?

Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (400/800 blinds, 100 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #29773551

SB: 23,385 (29.2 bb)
BB: 10,071 (12.6 bb)
UTG+1: 34,486 (43.1 bb)
UTG+2: 14,345 (17.9 bb)
MP1: 39,900 (49.9 bb)
MP2: 21,192 (26.5 bb)
Hero (MP3): 15,961 (20 bb)
CO: 16,380 (20.5 bb)
BTN: 35,919 (44.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 4

4 folds, Hero raises to 15,861 and is all-in, CO folds, BTN raises to 35,819 and is all-in, 2 folds

Flop: (33,822) A

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (33,822) A

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (33,822) K

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

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08-19-2014 , 10:19 PM

Alexo

old hand

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 1,245

pushbot it, should be very marginal. I'm probably r/f here tho.

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08-19-2014 , 11:07 PM

BadBeatUHard

enthusiast

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 69

prefer R/F unless players behind love to flat or reshove, than I might just Jam

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08-20-2014 , 12:10 AM

Alexo

old hand

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 1,245

also this is not midstakes

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08-20-2014 , 07:02 AM

DjHitzz

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 2,215

20BB shove with 44 is a little spew, r/deciding.

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08-20-2014 , 09:53 AM

BrazilianBatman

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Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 228

I dont like r/f there.. We dont have blockers to be a good steal, if we get called the only good board we have is if we hit a set and we dont have stack to set mine.

I also dont like open shoving 20BB with 44, the pot is not big enough and when we get called we will be best flipping and mostly dominated.

So I dont mind open folding 44 here and take another spot, I would prefer to get a resteal spot with some weakish hand with some blockers than burning our stack with 44 there.

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08-20-2014 , 09:59 AM

Voodoo974

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 565

Fold>shove>r/f imho.
R/f is bad cause 44 hasn't any good blockers, and plays bad postflop when someone flats.

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08-20-2014 , 10:14 AM

LoveFish2013

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 346

Sorry not to say it but its a 5rebuy so 20,50$ tourney.

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08-20-2014 , 12:17 PM

Hammerzitzen

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 233

Every option seems Gucci in this spot, kinda table dependent IMO.

Although I like open Jamming the least since I imagine it will marginally be profitable and it turns our range pretty face up.

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08-20-2014 , 12:57 PM

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imag1ne

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Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 338

Fold or shove. I'd most likely shove if the BB's stack wasn't so small. It's not like you have 0 FE here either. Given the stacks yet to act, fold.

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08-20-2014 , 08:12 PM

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LoveFish2013

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Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 346

Ok thanks for the reactions.

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08-21-2014 , 07:16 AM

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03steedmst

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 49

fold pre find a better spot

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08-21-2014 , 11:40 PM

#13

Dragons_Egg

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,861

R/f'ing without info on opponents.

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08-23-2014 , 12:54 PM

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gregz41

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,609

R/f vs everyone but BB without more info.

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08-24-2014 , 04:59 AM

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ItchingAgain

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Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 530

easy fold. You can find a better spot.

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08-25-2014 , 12:11 AM

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tightywhity

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Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 2,396

I may limp to try and set mine but definitely not shoving... Still have 4 people behind to act. If anyone calls you are either dominated or flipping and picking up the blinds isn't worth that risk yet in my opinion.

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