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$4/2k somewhat late, J7o bvb raise/fold or open shove?

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04-09-2010 , 05:33 PM

MountainBum

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Readless. Thoughts on raise folding when effectives are <20bbs would be great.

Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t2500/t5000 Blinds + t625 - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: t59038 M = 4.97
CO: t80565 M = 6.78
BTN: t284956 M = 24.00
Hero (SB): t239146 M = 20.14
BB: t89602 M = 7.55
UTG: t53180 M = 4.48
UTG+1: t27705 M = 2.33

Pre Flop: (t11875) Hero is SB with J

5 folds, Hero raises to t13000....

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04-09-2010 , 05:52 PM

94ssimpala

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shove or fold, not r/f here. i'm shoving super wide here...probably just folding hands like J2o, 92o type of hands...shoving everything else. opening folding here can't be bad...but shoving i'm sure its +cEV

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04-10-2010 , 11:25 AM

pointguard

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Originally Posted by 94ssimpala

Shoving is def +ev, but isn't r/f better? I mean how many randoms are going to be restealing light in a $4? Do the few times we get exploited by r/f outweigh the times we lose 35% of our stack by shoving?

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04-10-2010 , 11:40 AM

ShortyTheFish

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The stacks are deep enough to put in a small raise, not shove. Putting in 18BBs on a pure steal with J7 seems like extreme spew to me.

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04-10-2010 , 11:48 AM

Benni_lava

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imo u never wanna raise fold in this sit i just open shove almost any 2 here he folding such a wide range that its profitable

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04-10-2010 , 07:10 PM

Jiggymike

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Raise/folding here with some hands is fine, I don't think I'd shove a hand like this since his calling and reshoving ranges are probably pretty similar.

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04-10-2010 , 07:27 PM

phos77

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i like a r/f here against a random.

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04-10-2010 , 10:27 PM

MountainBum

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I think jamming in spots like this is a leak iv fixed......i went from a very weak/tight player to playing way way to aggro and spewed so much money and chips away jamming here. I think shoving K9s+/55+ would be good here but much lighter than that idk. If villian has <10bbs im much more apt to jam atc if hes tight or fold if i think hes calling wide much. Just in this situation though with stack sizes how they are.

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04-10-2010 , 11:02 PM

JITxpert

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r/f is fine... if r/f starts to become a habit against this particular villain, then it's time to come up with plan b.

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