Full Tilt Poker $33 + $3 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 5 players
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Hero (UTG): t3660 M = 12.20
CO: t2000 M = 6.67
BTN: t2160 M = 7.20
SB: t2795 M = 9.32
BB: t2885 M = 9.62

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is UTG with T T
Hero raises to t500, 1 fold, BTN raises to t2160 all in, 2 folds, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls t1660


Sorry if this is totally standard but I'm having trouble wrapping my head around it.
In this case villain is 17/11 filtered 4-6 handed, he 8 tables $36s and seems to know what he's doing. I bet he's on 4% here maybe 5% for the 3bet. So putting it through pokerstove we have like 40% equity, and given our odds we need atleast 35% equity to call so if this was a cash game it would be a snap call. But 5 handed do we really want to be flipping or be crushed here? I guess if we win we get to pwn the bbl but I thought as the # of players decreases our equity increases so we don't want to be gambling here?

eating a Whopper right now so I can't elaborate but never fold aight

Fold tEq = 0.2256
http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sn...6=&s7=&s8=&s9=

Call win tEq = 0.3528
http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sn...6=&s7=&s8=&s9=

Call lose = 0.1281
http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sn...6=&s7=&s8=&s9=

Call = (win * tEqCallwin) + ((1 - win) * tEqCallLose)
Call = (.40* 0.3528) + ((1 - .40) * 0.1281)
Call = (.07686) + (.14112)
Call = .21798

Fold expecation > Call expectation

aha! whopper eater says call and castle says fold so it can't be totally obvious.

Whopper eater beats $114's and Castle just moved to $16s, doesn't seem like much of a choice to me. Double Whopper with Cheese combo pls? Sprite to drink? K thx.

FYP.

(First time doing the FYP thing, felt awesome).

ok whopper has been crushed although tool box at the drive thru window gave me some buffalo sauce **** instead of sweet and sour.

given castle bravo's numbers it is close but i question villain's range for reshoving. do you really think he is mucking 88-99/AQ here? if so damn people be nits on deez streets. you are the chip leader, it is five handed, he probably knows you are decent and capable of opening semi wide here...

just ou of interest:
what are we opening in Hero's spot?

I dunno what faarcyde means by wide, but I'll probably be on AJ/77. Should I be wider? I guess it depends on how tight the blinds are which I can't remember, but they both have good 3bet stacks.

My opening range is tight here, stacks are pretty even and wouldn't like to be calling shoves from any of them. Can't decide what I'd do in this spot, probably wouldn't have discipline to fold.

I like opening wide here because of our slight chip lead and the fact that if we steal a couple times we can put some real pressure on the table when the blinds go up. In this instance I would probably open A7s+, ATo+, QTs+, KJo+, 22+ unless big blind had really flat happy stats then I would tighten up a tad.

I raise more pre and call the shove even though i knw he has Bigger pair/AK or 99 so i prey. I'm a donk obviosuly.

^^WTF at open rasing 22 and A7s. The suited makes virtually no differenct at this point when you raise here your getting eiter shoved over or called and i dont want to see any of these situations with those hands UTG with such crap holdings.

this seems close. don't mind a fold since we aren't crushing much... prob going to be flipping or crushed a lot. i don't think a call looks terrible either. these spots always kill me in game...

Just as a matter of interest, did he have a hand you put in his range?

See, that's why i asked faarcyde opens twice as many hands.

faar, do you ever raise/call 22-66 in this spot? If not, wouldn't it be better to drop those pairs and open stuff like JTo or K8s, just because of the card removal and for the rare case that we get flatted?

When you think that this spot is exploitable (and i assume you do, otherwise you wouldn't open A7s imo), shouldn't we open any Ace in that spot? - unless the table is full of regs that know our game of course.

How often does our steal succeed anyways, when they ship something like 5-6%?

Faarcyde, do you think opening this wide is ok in low stake games? I mean, ya it should be based around HUD stats, but it seems like overall raising this wide in 119s is a much better idea than in a 16 or whatever. That whopper sounds so good ofmg I hate eating healthy.

doh! deleted that part of my post

Having a balanced range is probably more valuable in a 119 than in a 36, where the playerpoolsize and amount of players that pay attention is so different.

I don't think balance has anything to do with it. It it about exploiting how tight people are going to be with these stacks. Even though they have good reshove amounts they still have to play pretty straightforward against my range even if they know I am opening slightly wider than usual.

As far as the stake differential goes of course you have to account for the quality of play but the skill gap isn't that huge in this particular scenario where I would look to change my strategy all that much. Villains are forced to be tight in this spot no matter the buyin is - if there is somebody that is wild enough where opening wide here wouldn't be desirable you should be able to spot them fairly quickly anyway and adjust accordingly.