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06-23-2010 , 03:27 AM

NotSoFarOff

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Villain is neil_rick(solid winning reg). 33/29 filtered over 176 hands.

Poker Stars $25+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: t3345 M = 22.30
Hero (BB): t4340 M = 28.93
UTG: t1500 M = 10
CO: t2780 M = 18.53
BTN: t1535 M = 10.23

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is BB with J

3 folds, SB raises to t3345 all in, Hero punches his computer

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06-23-2010 , 03:34 AM

Ketelsen

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wtf

i hate regs, so i call

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06-23-2010 , 03:35 AM

always_sunni_

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Odds he misclicked? I can't think of a single hand he would do this with.

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06-23-2010 , 03:37 AM

Ketelsen

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Originally Posted by always_sunni_

Odds he misclicked? I can't think of a single hand he would do this with.

It's not very easy to misclick allin on stars iirc (havent played there for years tho)

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06-23-2010 , 03:37 AM

NotSoFarOff

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Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 435

well I was obv watching him very carefully after this hand and he was super aggro so pretty sure this wasn't a misclick

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06-23-2010 , 03:38 AM

always_sunni_

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Originally Posted by Ketelsen

It's not very easy to misclick allin on stars iirc (havent played there for years tho)

Kids these days have their autohotkeys...and single-click mouse controls. I agree it's still unlikely.

I'm folding, but I don't play at this level.

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06-23-2010 , 04:01 AM

TomoDaK

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Neil, or anyone with a brain for that matter, doesn't shove anything here. Snap his misclick and profit, if you called and lost it was some sort of freak cooler accident

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06-23-2010 , 04:17 AM

jurrasstoil

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Originally Posted by TomoDaK

Neil, or anyone with a brain for that matter, doesn't shove anything here. Snap his misclick and profit, if you called and lost it was some sort of freak cooler accident

anyways, snap.

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06-23-2010 , 08:49 AM

Kvaughan

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Originally Posted by TomoDaK

Neil, or anyone with a brain for that matter, doesn't shove anything here. Snap his misclick and profit, if you called and lost it was some sort of freak cooler accident

Even if, for some strange reason, he does shove something here, he doesn't shove AA, KK or QQ, so it's an easy call.

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06-23-2010 , 09:22 AM

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Maaddi

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Originally Posted by TomoDaK

Neil, or anyone with a brain for that matter, doesn't shove anything here. Snap his misclick and profit, if you called and lost it was some sort of freak cooler accident

this plus i really thibnk this is a "misclick" (not that difficult with AHK scripts etc.)

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06-23-2010 , 09:24 AM

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michty6

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Originally Posted by NotSoFarOff

Hero punches his computer as he didnt realise 'fist pump call' was not a phrase meant to be taken literally

FYP

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06-23-2010 , 09:26 AM

#12

jurrasstoil

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Originally Posted by michty6

FYP

Hit the call button as hard as you can*

*with your mouse cursor

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06-23-2010 , 09:29 AM

#13

Regret$

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I'd favor intentionally hitting whatever hotkey it is that this guy unintentionally hit.

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06-23-2010 , 09:58 AM

#14

Caramelldansen

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Go ahead and flip with his AK or AQ

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06-23-2010 , 10:47 AM

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entim

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Is 33/29 filtered for this blind level?

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06-23-2010 , 01:48 PM

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NotSoFarOff

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Filtered 4-6 handed. Also isn't there more to this than just "we prob have the best hand snap call"? I feel like this is an equity question. If we call and win we have 7600 chips. If we call and lose we have 1000. If we fold we still have more equity than anybody else in this tournament. I have no idea how to do ICM math but I feel like calling is losing equity no matter what here.

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06-23-2010 , 02:32 PM

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Kvaughan

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Originally Posted by NotSoFarOff

You can run the numbers in ICM, but IMO our EQ win% as modeled by ICM is going to be significantly lower than our actual EQ win%. If we win here, we have 6700 chips on the bubble at 50/100. We get a ton of time to pwn and will pick up a very significant amount of equity on average. ICM would have to predict a pretty significant negative edge for me to fold.

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06-23-2010 , 06:08 PM

#18

jurrasstoil

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you need around 60-61% equity. fire up pokerstove and have some fun.

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06-23-2010 , 06:22 PM

#19

pompeypoker

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i doubt he does this with QQ+ or AK so i think it's a call.

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06-23-2010 , 06:51 PM

#20

NotSoFarOff

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I think AK/AQ are his most likely holdings but I'm pretty much guessing because I would have thought he would do this with 0 hands. Fwiw I folded in game because 1. I'm a nit 2. I figured that I had too much of an edge to risk what I thought could be a flip and 3. I was so lost and confused that I figured a fold>>>call. It's a ******ed spot and I think it's close either way but prob a spot I won't have to worry about ever again.

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06-23-2010 , 07:22 PM

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Raizin_Azian

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Originally Posted by Maaddi

this plus i really thibnk this is a "misclick" (not that difficult with AHK scripts etc.)

Agreed. Snap off his misclick snaffoo... Lose to KT

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06-23-2010 , 07:26 PM

#22

the_most10

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ur at worst flipping,, snap call

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06-24-2010 , 02:10 AM

#23

Glitlr

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...easiest call ever?

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