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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10
Hey all, have a hand from today I wonder if needs to be played differently. I have 12.6k maybe? At 800 bb level and avg is maybe 35k? 8 handed, goes two limps- one guy is new to table and looks kinda reccy and to my right guy is older and limp (another rec player). I have AQdd from maybe cutoff and think what to do. I elect to make it 4.5k making it a third of my stack. First guy folds and to my right he calls. Flop 568 and he quickly checks. I rip. He folds.
Do I need to just rip pre here? I was just going to call all ins pre obv and thought making it 1/3rd stack and psb on flops works. Is that really bad? I know we wanna see all 5 and gives guy with any pp to call post bc that flop is bad. I honestly wouldnÂ’t be surprised if villain folded a lower pp to the board but idk prolly just 2 high cards. Is my play ever ok or nah?
IÂ’ll go one more hand. 18k at 400 level and cutoff is a Rec (we didnÂ’t know but he was a blaster- played tourny for 4 bullets and after hand we saw him punt badly). I have k5cc from button. He opens cu to 1500, I make it 6.5k. He calls. Flop is red Q72 and I cbet 1/4th pot and he quickly raises and I fold. Are you ok with 3 betting this hand bc he should be light from cu. I feel we can size down on flop and he will play face up. He flashed a Q. He may have had 25-30k at start of hand. Do you hate this play button Vs cu. I feel it might be bad against a rec player bc they prolly arenÂ’t opening wide enough. I thought it was a good spot to pick up blinds but if he folds pre + we can cbet and hope he folds. I would say itÂ’s a high variance play and maybe spewy in a tourny we donÂ’t need to get crazy in bc spots can be found. Thanks for thoughts.
Sizing on hand- I think he prolly rarily folds making it more than 3x also but just thought k5cc was too good to not turn into a 3! Fold (prolly not ideal due to sizing and fact it was a rec player).
You have 15.66 bb's with AQdd from cutoff against two limps? That's an easy shove there. Why raise to 4,500?
The stack sizes of the other two would be helpful, but I mean...just under 16 bb's from cutoff facing two limps is an easy shove with AQdd.
As played, you're letting villain get away from hands you dominate on this flop. You're only folding out worse (except 22-44, which would be the only better hands you can fold out, and 44 may even call your flop all-in) and getting called by better on this flop. If you shove pre you might get looked up by ATo-AJo, KJs+, A9s-AJs, KQo.
Second hand...cutoff opens to 3.75 bb's and you...3! with K5cc to 16.25 bb's? And you were the effective stack with 45 bb's to start?
Why are you 3! K5cc for over 1/3 of your stack against a "rec player"? Rec players don't like to open raise/fold all that much. They came to play hands.
So now he calls, pot is like 35 bb's and you have like 28.75 bb's behind? I mean, you don't really have much maneuverability postflop with just under 1 SPR.
Just fold preflop. You have a horrible hand and I don't know why you think it's a justified play. You had 45 bb's. No need to even get involved in this hand whatsoever.
You said he's a recreational player. Then you said "he should be light from the cu". Based on...what exactly? You gave no examples of him opening wide/lite from late position.
If anything, I'd think a recreational player is opening raising tighter from the cutoff vs an MTT pro/regular/online player.