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11-10-2012 , 02:54 PM

jaxx

old hand

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UTG plays 24/24/AF:2 for 18 hands
CO plays 12/0/AF:1 for 18 hands
BTN plays 22/6/AF:0.6 for 18 hands

NL Holdem $50(BB) Replayer
SB ($3,380)
BB ($3,000)
UTG ($2,510)
UTG+1 ($2,775)
Hero ($2,380)
MP1 ($6,095)
MP2 ($4,175)
CO ($2,900)
BTN ($3,205)

Dealt to Hero K

UTG raises to $150, fold, Hero calls $150, fold, fold, CO calls $150, BTN calls $150, fold, fold

FLOP ($675) 8

UTG bets $350, Hero raises to $950 (and has $1,280 behind), CO calls $950, BTN calls $950, UTG raises to $1,600 (and has $760 behind)

Hero?

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11-10-2012 , 03:06 PM

Elephants_pride

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 5,043

not folding now with all dead money, but I`d just call flop
and probably 3b/c pre considering it`s turbo and UTG is active

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11-10-2012 , 03:28 PM

random btn

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i think 3betting is slightly better pre (utg is active, ur <50bb deep), although calling isnt really bad or anything
flop im flatting with utg betting it 4way and 2ppl left to act after you, after you raise i dont think you can fold, esp with the A of clubs.
utg might be b/f hands that you could get it in against OTT just because your raise looks so so strong and if too much happens behind you, you can still find a fold.

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11-10-2012 , 05:20 PM

jaxx

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I do not really see why to only call the flop bet on such drawy board, enticing the 2 opponents behind me to come along
Normally I should have the best hand here 90% of the time

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11-10-2012 , 05:39 PM

Elephants_pride

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Originally Posted by jaxx

I do not really see why to only call the flop bet on such drawy board, enticing the 2 opponents behind me to come along
Normally I should have the best hand here 90% of the time

Yes, but when you raise you narrow ranges of guys behind and make them fold hands you can get value from like KQ, KJ, JTxx.

Besides when UTG Cbets 4way he has all sets, AA and chops in his range, but could cbet worse Kx as well.... why raising esp with NFD_blocker?

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11-10-2012 , 06:14 PM

jaxx

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Originally Posted by Elephants_pride

if it was 2 way, I could agree with you that I should try to keep dominated hands in. However it is 4 way so the possibility someone to outdraw me on the turn is too big, so I prefer to protect my hand

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11-10-2012 , 06:25 PM

Elephants_pride

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You have TPTK 4way, not much to protect and you block decent chunk of draws....
Let`s say UTG calls as well or folds. Turn is 7c, what are you doing? You have like 1/2 psb behind.....

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11-11-2012 , 10:21 AM

random btn

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yeah i think your raise looks too strong to get value from some worse hands very often, sure its drawheavy but you have the Ac at least. if u flat you keep cbettors range to double barrell (with worse for value and semi bluffs) wider and can shove on his turn bet on a lot of cards.

actually i think 2way you can rep a bluff/semi bluff way better by raising and people wont fold tpgk very often. but 4way in these positions it looks pretty damn strong imo

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11-11-2012 , 10:27 AM

furo

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flop raise is too big

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