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03-24-2010 , 05:26 PM
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#Game No : 9054959054
***** Hand History for Game 9054959054 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $22 USD Buy-in Trny:51085915 Level:7 Blinds-Antes(400/800 -25) - Wednesday, March 24, 21:08:42 CET 2010
Table Speed #1330114 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 5/10
Seat 3: Derrek ( 1,334 )
Seat 10: HERO (SB) ( 4,224 )
Seat 1: RedLightH (BB)( 2,765 )
Seat 9: pushNp ( 6,365 )
Seat 2: sixtise ( 5,312 )
Trny:51085915 Level:7
Blinds-Antes(400/800 -25)
RedLightH posts ante [25]
sixtise posts ante [25]
Derrek posts ante [25]
pushNp posts ante [25]
Hero posts ante [25]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 7c 6c ]
sixtise folds
Derrek folds
pushNp folds
Hero shoves???

It is SB vs BB and My opponent has paid 825 in blinds+antes and has 1910 left.
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03-25-2010 , 08:52 AM
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anyooone?
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03-25-2010 , 09:27 AM
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If you push, vilain pot odds are 3235 to 1910, 1.7 to 1. If vilain folds he will have 2BB left after posting the SB. So he will call very wide. And 67 is not strong at all. I fold here
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03-25-2010 , 09:46 AM
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I would agree.

Wizard just says push even though he calls very wide.
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03-25-2010 , 09:50 AM
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let see what more senior members of the forum think about it.
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03-25-2010 , 10:41 AM
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This is a shove. You should have enough FE. He doesn't have to be folding that much to make this good. 76o is still 42% vs a random hand.

I don't even know if this is -EV vs any range. This is a good reminder for a lot of people you should almost never fold when the blinds get this high.
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03-25-2010 , 12:21 PM
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This is a shove. You should have enough FE. He doesn't have to be folding that much to make this good. 76o is still 42% vs a random hand.

I don't even know if this is -EV vs any range. This is a good reminder for a lot of people you should almost never fold when the blinds get this high.
I am not sure to understand why we have fold equity here. The BB will have 2 blinds left if he folds (he is SB next round) and no more steal potential.
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03-25-2010 , 12:53 PM
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insta shove...fe+ you are live vs two overs.
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03-25-2010 , 01:07 PM
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Cool..

Sometimes I just feel stupid when I get called and lose my good position.

But I will keep my shovingparty running and hoping for my ROI

thx
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03-25-2010 , 01:20 PM
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Cool..

Sometimes I just feel stupid when I get called and lose my good position.
you'll sometimes get called and lose, sometimes get called and win, sometimes not get called. The sum of all these 3 situations makes it an +Ev play in the long run

nh imo
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03-25-2010 , 01:49 PM
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I am not sure to understand why we have fold equity here. The BB will have 2 blinds left if he folds (he is SB next round) and no more steal potential.
Because players are insanely bad, especially in $20s. Write down every time someone folds in this spot for the foreseeable future and you will find out you have plenty of FE here if you ever get an appropriate sample.

Also, I didn't even notice twas sooted. 76s is 45% vs ATC
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03-25-2010 , 01:54 PM
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Because players are insanely bad, especially in $20s. Write down every time someone folds in this spot for the foreseeable future and you will find out you have plenty of FE here if you ever get an appropriate sample.

Also, I didn't even notice twas sooted. 76s is 45% vs ATC
That's a goode reason it is true i have seen so many times silly lay down.
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03-25-2010 , 02:56 PM
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would you call with ATC if you were him?
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03-25-2010 , 04:19 PM
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would you call with ATC if you were him?
Not if he's a donk, cuz he's not shoving wide enough & we can't call ATC I don't believe(without looking). Donks give too many walks here.
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03-25-2010 , 04:38 PM
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Shove, BB will surprise you how often he folds
It's true that if you lose you're screwed more than WIZ thinks, but if you win you can really destroy this bubble
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