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.50 bounty MTT: rejamming 66 with a 33BB stack .50 bounty MTT: rejamming 66 with a 33BB stack

03-09-2023 , 06:15 AM
My biggest mistake on this day was that was affected because of prior history with a LAG donk. Earlier he 4bet jammed by 3bet with KQs to 50BBs. I called with AKo and got outdrawn when a Queen hits and this donk proceeds to taunt me. I'll admit that it tilted me, and that was definitely regrettable on my end.

Fast forward to later on, where the LAD donk is UTG+1 and min raises. I rejam 33BBs from the button with 66 thinking this guy is raising light and is a donk. I get called my 77 and I'm crippled.

I can I probably would not have jammed 33BBs there if I wasn't tilted. Normally, with 33BBs, I am going to just call his 2BB raise, and have 31BBs behind hoping to hit a set. When I first got back to online poker years ago, I made huge mistakes rejamming all in some middle pairs when I had 40BB and 50BB stacks. I'd get busted, and then I realized that I was risking too much to gain too little.

Since then, I modified my rejamming stack size all in with middle pairs to have an upper limit of around 25-30BBs. So this amount of 33BBs was beyond my limit of what I'd normally be reshoving. My question is that is this a good stack size for rejamming small to medium pairs like 44 to 99? Is 25-30BBs the correct range for that, or is it something else? At what stack sizes is it optimal to just call a raise with 66 versus rejamming all in?


PokerStars - 200/400 Ante 60 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 122.93 BB
MP: 18.01 BB
MP+1: 63.37 BB
CO: 23.63 BB
Hero (BTN): 33.29 BB
SB: 98.66 BB
BB: 30.93 BB
UTG: 57.68 BB

8 players post ante of 0.15 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.7 BB) Hero has 6 6

fold, UTG+1 raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 33.14 BB and is all-in, fold, BB calls 29.78 BB and is all-in, fold

Flop: (65.26 BB, 2 players) 3 4 8

Turn: (65.26 BB, 2 players) Q

River: (65.26 BB, 2 players) 8

BB shows 7 7 (Two Pair, Eights and Sevens)
(Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows 6 6 (Two Pair, Eights and Sixes)
(Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
BB wins 65.26 BB
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03-09-2023 , 06:23 AM
"rejamming" itt, who jammed first

I think we're just about deep enough where we can try to see a flop in position, if the blinds wake up with something and shove ott it's no big deal, if they call along it's also no big deal
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03-10-2023 , 12:02 AM
I tend to avoid in-position rejams at 30+ BB, we can do it sometimes against later position opens (think BTN vs. HJ/BTN vs. LJ) but even then it's not a big part of our strategy, in theory we might jam stuff like TT/99/AKo and a few suited broadways.

We can do a little more jamming from the SB, in part because at these stacks we don't have a big incentive to play pots out of position, so we actually 3-bet or jam almost as much as we call in some cases.

With regards to this specific spot, the problem with jamming a hand like 66 at 30-ish BB is that our villain's response is to basically call with every better pair than ours plus hands with tons of equity, like the best Ax/Kx. Even if they're calling a little too wide, the hands they're "too wide" with usually have lots of equity against our range, like KQo or KTs. When we jam with a stronger pair range, like 99+, we start to dominate the 77-88 hands that should start calling in theory. (and if they're not calling those hands, it also means they're probably not calling with some Ax/Kx hands which is good for us too)

I think 66 may work as a jam if we think our opponents fold way too often, but even then I'd rather just jam some more Ax hands, like ATo/Ajo, because those hands block a lot of our opponents' auto-calls like AK/AA/TT/JJ.
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03-10-2023 , 04:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jpgiro
I tend to avoid in-position rejams at 30+ BB, we can do it sometimes against later position opens (think BTN vs. HJ/BTN vs. LJ) but even then it's not a big part of our strategy, in theory we might jam stuff like TT/99/AKo and a few suited broadways.

We can do a little more jamming from the SB, in part because at these stacks we don't have a big incentive to play pots out of position, so we actually 3-bet or jam almost as much as we call in some cases.

With regards to this specific spot, the problem with jamming a hand like 66 at 30-ish BB is that our villain's response is to basically call with every better pair than ours plus hands with tons of equity, like the best Ax/Kx. Even if they're calling a little too wide, the hands they're "too wide" with usually have lots of equity against our range, like KQo or KTs. When we jam with a stronger pair range, like 99+, we start to dominate the 77-88 hands that should start calling in theory. (and if they're not calling those hands, it also means they're probably not calling with some Ax/Kx hands which is good for us too)

I think 66 may work as a jam if we think our opponents fold way too often, but even then I'd rather just jam some more Ax hands, like ATo/Ajo, because those hands block a lot of our opponents' auto-calls like AK/AA/TT/JJ.
Thanks man. Ya at that 30+ BB stack size, it makes sense that I would want to jam with bigger pairs and not my small ones as those would be dominated. And ya, out of position makes more sense than in position as well.

Ya that hand was definitely the biggest mistake I made that day, so hopefully I can adjust to that situation going forward. And I definitely need to manage my tilt control better as well. It is fairly good for the most part, but I'm definitely not perfect in that area.
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03-10-2023 , 10:50 AM
Agreed on all the above.
Also playing postflop in position against a bad splashy player is usually a good idea.
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