Any ideas in this hand for any better plays? opp is unknown, his river bet looks bluffy but with calling we risk too much of our stack (and more importantly stacks of other players are very low as well). And betting at T is prob unnecessary

Agree with folding the river. His sizing just looks too strong readless. Him beeing oop makes it hard not to put him on a J, trips or a better 7 if he bets that big. Would need a read on his sizing in order to bluffcatch.

Fold now but i would jam pre if he has been limping a lot

I actually don't Hate checking behind pre... depends on opponent. I think you ran into trouble with your sizing on the flop. Given V's limping range, he's gonna be in and around that flop with some considerable frequency. With 260 in the pot and Hero with about 9 bigs, you're looking to increase your stack by about 1/3. This, IMO, is not the time to be extracting chips with small value bets. Shove for value here.

LOL shove for value? Only better hands will call if you shove on that flop! I think the sizing should be increase from 100 -> around 150 to show strength + push him away from floating w/ over cards + give him worse pot odds.

This may be a generalised observation, but when people bet the big blind exactly on the flop in spots like this, It's usually weak or percieved as weakness. I think I play this pretty much the same but bet a little bigger on flop because of observations I think to be fair. The 30% does work a remarkably high % of the time but you have real equity here. I think you can bet more for value.

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Don't see any worse calling here if you bet like 200 chips. The only thing you accomplish by betting bigger is making draws pay more. That said i don't think its terrible to make draws fold with our hand. Valuebet is just the wrong term, since we don't get alot of worse one-pair hands or A-high hands calling us here by betting big.

If we were oop then a like a bigger bet, as making hands with decent equity fold helps more. When we are IP it's not so hard to figure out where we are street by street.
As played, I can't see past him having T9, or an 8. Why would a 7 bet this big? Or a J for that matter?
The OOP line: X/C otf, X ott, then BIG bet is often a missed turn X/R looking to make up missed turn value on the river. If you call and win v this line it will often be a turned draw, say Q9hh, which again would be a missed x/r ott.

It's kind of a mess because the average player in hero's spot has NOTHING which x turn, then call PSB otr. I know in theory it's wrong, but real world, the bet is way too big to get value, and would very likely be a decent bluff line.
In practice, against an unknown I can't imagine how I would take your line and then call this bet.

Fold river readless as played. But I think checking flop is better than betting with a weak 7. Most people shove all small-medium pocket pairs and most Ax preflop so you don't have to worry too much about not getting value from those if you check. So the hands that call you will most of the time be 7x, 8x, 87, TT+, maybe K9-KQ, T9, 69 and 65 (the last 3 hands are much more likely to bet out and many people will fold 65/69 pre). Against a range like this you have to check pretty much all turn cards and fold almost all rivers. Letting him bet turn with his air and folding on bad rivers to a second barrel seems much better. When your opponent's range is polarized you don't want to bet your medium strengh hands, you want to keep his range wide. I don't usually bother posting in these threads but I hope it helped

Yes, this is a shove otf here. I hate small value bets in this spot. When I say to shove for value I don't mean we're looking for a call with worse, but we're certainly looking to take valuable chips down right now. If V has us beat, we're going broke otf anyway imo. Take down the pot with an overbet. These are high value chips.

its a fold on the river.

Small c-bet turn, give you good deception and good information bet.

while this might actually be +EV your reasoning stems from an inability to play postflop. "If V has us beat we are going broke anyway" no reason whatsoever for this to be the case. calling flop is the std line and then this actual turn is interesting as we pick up equity it probably becomes a call too.

WE rarely face a tripple barrel anyway so shoving flop to avoid getting bluffed or to protect from overs is pretty meh.

It almost certainly is +EV actually its just not optimal so i would prefer doing this when mass tabling.

my std would be a small turn bet and. as played his sizing is kinda weak, but its gunna be a snap call to most smaller sizings i think

postflop ICM is important too though as someone mentioned to we cant just make chip EV calls. so could well be a fold. betting turn is also the only line to realistically help us rep trips or a straight.


this is a very good idea V randoms