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10-13-2009 , 08:35 PM
Thinking I can shove any two here, thoughts?

Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t2000/t4000 Blinds + t400 - 7 players
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UTG: t63829 M = 7.25
UTG+1: t14030 M = 1.59
MP: t5730 M = 0.65
Hero (CO): t72644 M = 8.26
BTN: t15594 M = 1.77
SB: t49560 M = 5.63
BB: t48613 M = 5.52

Pre Flop: (t8800) Hero is CO with 2 3
3 folds, Hero??
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10-13-2009 , 09:09 PM
fold pre
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10-13-2009 , 09:25 PM
um, not any 2
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10-14-2009 , 12:55 AM
I certainly wudnt, but u can feel free to
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10-14-2009 , 01:06 AM
I actually don't think it is a terrible spot to shove as the calling ranges are gonna be very small here. Even if we do get unlucky to have a monster behind us we will still have plenty of chips to work with if we don't suck out. Lets pick up that 10k dead money.
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10-14-2009 , 01:08 AM
There is a point where the BB can be so tight that you do raise here. Against a typical player I fold.
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10-14-2009 , 01:10 AM
so ur going all in when folded to till busto? idk what this icm is
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10-14-2009 , 02:56 AM
it is marginal but +EV due to icm.
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10-14-2009 , 02:59 AM
even if you know villains are aware of icm no you cant
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10-14-2009 , 03:01 AM
in a 2/180 you can.
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10-14-2009 , 03:02 AM
I fold here
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10-14-2009 , 03:25 AM
Just fold, people will call you much lighter than they should.
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10-14-2009 , 06:10 AM
i fold this for sure! because im ok with my stacksize here and i would be crying if someone calls and wins this hand.
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10-14-2009 , 06:17 AM
i shove this unless i think the blinds are stupider than the average 12/180 player
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10-14-2009 , 07:42 AM
I fold it.
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10-14-2009 , 07:53 AM
i couldn't find a calling range for villains where this is a shove, snapfold always even if all of them are supernits
edit: ok, if both blinds are calling with AQ+, AJs+, 99+, then it's a shove
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