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02-04-2011 , 06:59 PM
We don't, the big stack does. I was responding to a side discussion about whether the big stack should be opening any two cards here. That doesn't matter for this hand though, it only matters how wide he's actually opening, which if he's playing 21/15 then I change my advice to fold pre. We need somewhere around 65-70% equity to get it in here.

Last edited by Billy Bibbit; 02-04-2011 at 06:59 PM. Reason: damn slow pony
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02-05-2011 , 04:08 AM
really can't fathom folding TT here...it may be the best move to move up to 4th or 5th but it's definitely not the best move to win the tournament
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02-05-2011 , 05:10 AM
never folding

guy with almost 100 bbs opens when it folds to him and we have 1010 with 10.5 bbs.

just gotta hold
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02-05-2011 , 08:51 AM
Push, and not close. You are about a 2-1 favorite versus the big stack's range plus pot odds. Not good that there are 2 microstacks, but the payout jumps for the top places are much bigger. Can't fold this hand with 10xBB waiting for shorter stacks to bust.
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02-05-2011 , 09:07 AM
There's so much more value in winning vs correctly jewing icm. There's no glory in beating icm for 300$ more than you should have than there is for putting yourself in a better spot to win it all. I think between 77 and 88 is where it gets real close.
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02-05-2011 , 09:33 AM
A lot depends on what is known about villain. Will he ever fold to your shove? If not, then you are better off flatting and praying for a friendly flop.
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02-05-2011 , 09:42 AM
Flatting is worse than folding
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02-05-2011 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by cicakman
Flatting is worse than folding
Only if you play really badly or scared postflop.
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02-05-2011 , 10:03 AM
Flatting is the worst option you can choose. With a double up, you'll fight for the 1st place. Just shove and pray!
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02-05-2011 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BartJ385
A lot depends on what is known about villain. Will he ever fold to your shove? If not, then you are better off flatting and praying for a friendly flop.
Location: you gotta be joking




ICM is for little fairy boys.
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02-05-2011 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by thebigeasy59
ICM is for little fairy boys.
strong logic ITT.
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02-05-2011 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by caddymix024
dude i'm just not folding this with 10bbs to one raise....ever

you wanna win right

i mean i understand there's icm implications but how are you ever gonna actually WIN this tournament if youre folding TT here

top 5 or 6 isn't gonna do you much good long run....get that sht in and pray u fade the 3outer.
+1

In it to win it 10bb stick it in and pray you hold
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02-06-2011 , 07:26 PM
This thread delivers.
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02-08-2011 , 02:23 AM
Would love to see someones hand history of them making a fold here. (obv there r sng sturctures that u should b making this fold)
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