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02-01-2020 , 08:05 AM
Hi Guys,

What is your play in the following scenario ?

Should I lead OTT for value from 2 pairs/sets/combodraws?

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02-02-2020 , 12:47 AM
I don't like the flop call. Should just be a fold for that price and given you aren't even drawing to the nuts, fd out there and it's a 4 card straight. River sizing is too big tho if you're having basically no bluffs. I would rather bet a small amount and force marginal hands to make difficult decisions.
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02-02-2020 , 08:46 AM
In the HU I would probably fold oesd to pot bet. there was call on BU so my odds were a bit better
I don't think bluffing in 4 way on river when we consider action on flop( pot bet and 3 calls) is good idea. I wanted get max value from other strong holdings like Ax straight. People on micro/low are too sticky and just simple can't fold even sets or even 2 pairs there.
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02-02-2020 , 11:17 AM
100% agree
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02-02-2020 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by killer_kill
I don't like the flop call. Should just be a fold for that price and given you aren't even drawing to the nuts
100% agree
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02-02-2020 , 05:29 PM
Yes, I would expect turn is a lead at some frequency. Their ranges are abundant in (perceived) high equity combos that have little interest in bloating turn, but if you always check turn after calling pot on the flop you won’t go far wrong.

River is good because they’re never folding Ax in a low stakes blue MTT, that data-point supersedes any bet size theory.
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02-06-2020 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bearer
Yes, I would expect turn is a lead at some frequency.
What sizing would be the best in this scenario ?
Thanks
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02-06-2020 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DawajHAJS!!!
What sizing would be the best in this scenario ?
Thanks
i dont rly like leading and having them hero fold overpairs, i think we get more value by leading on river larger 4 ways than leading turn and river
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02-07-2020 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DawajHAJS!!!
In the HU I would probably fold oesd to pot bet. there was call on BU so my odds were a bit better
I don't think bluffing in 4 way on river when we consider action on flop( pot bet and 3 calls) is good idea. I wanted get max value from other strong holdings like Ax straight. People on micro/low are too sticky and just simple can't fold even sets or even 2 pairs there.
The thing is part of the value of calling with a draw is that you aren't repping like you have a draw hopefully since we're all having well structured ranges So what I'm alluding to is that when there are more people your ability to leverage equity (IE semi-bluff or bluffing different runouts) is severely diminished. Thus we want to adjust our ranges and fold here. Plus it's not like we get much value on a 4 straight anyways. It's just one of those things. If we had higher/nuttier cards on this board it's different also.
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