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11-10-2012 , 10:02 PM

bbfreak

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 60/120 Blinds (4 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB (t4689)
BB (t4666)
UTG (t1240)
Hero (Button) (t2905)

Hero's M: 16.14

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10

, 10

1 fold, Hero bets t240, SB raises to t360, 1 fold, Hero calls t120

Flop: (t840) Q

, 2

(2 players)
SB bets t480, Hero calls t480

Turn: (t1800) 2

(2 players)
SB bets t600, Hero folds

Total pot: t1800

i have to be very risk averse. sb has 7af over 55 hands. 40/20
in retrospective its an allin on turn imo :-(
i thought 1/3 looks strong and he wanted to milk me.. ?!
tx

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11-10-2012 , 10:15 PM

ShiverMeTimbers

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Any reads or stats on the SB?

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11-10-2012 , 11:05 PM

Regret$

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Call, reeval imo. Odds to good to fold now and his line's not very strong. If he shoves river I'm pretty happy to fold.

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11-11-2012 , 07:09 PM

WaterStr1der9

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4-bet pre imo . As played reshove turn.

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11-11-2012 , 09:06 PM

bbfreak

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Originally Posted by WaterStr1der9

4-bet pre imo . As played reshove turn.

ty for your post, but i disagree a bit with this.

4bet pre is definitely a mistake vs the bigstack and shorty on table. its the bubble and i have to be very risk averse against the sb

why would you shove the turn? no better hand will fold and hands i beat dont call. imo a ship doesn't accomplish much. it is imo a decision between call and fold on turn.
if i call i'd fold the river as "Regret$" mentioned.

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11-13-2012 , 05:04 PM

WaterStr1der9

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Originally Posted by bbfreak

Why wouldn't you 4-bet ? You say it's a bad play cause of the bubble vs the bigstacks and the shorty ? So, if UTG shoved you wouldn't have called ? I don't really get what you want to say but i don't think that calling preflop with a vulnerable pair such as TT is better than 4-betting.

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11-13-2012 , 09:14 PM

SkinnyStax

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4b jamming 20bb on the bbl with TT is no bueno.

Where are you reads op?

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11-14-2012 , 08:13 AM

LeaksSuck

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Originally Posted by Regret$

Call, reeval imo. Odds to good to fold now and his line's not very strong. If he shoves river I'm pretty happy to fold.

Agree with this.

Pre is fine, 4bet is bad imho. To what amount? Stack is too big to shove and 4bet/fold to 5bet sucks. If non-allin 4bet gets called you're likely facing a shove otf with af=7 and have a difficult decision for your stack while there's a shorty around on the bubble. All results not desirable and getting the 40/20 to fold isn't that likely.

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11-14-2012 , 02:31 PM

SkinnyStax

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I ink there's def an argument for folding pre. 40/20 guys love to see flops and if this is his first 3bet we are just playin guessing games vs someone who should be very easy to play against. I know we get lolodds pre, but I think fold turn is best. If I try and put this guy on a range ott, I'd say 99+, KQ, AQ, maybe AK.

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11-14-2012 , 02:42 PM

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Mariosgh

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Lol at folding pre. Setmining itself is huge +EV here. You need to earn ~ 1100 chips on average when you flop a set and the pot on flop is already over 800.

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11-14-2012 , 10:11 PM

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Ronny Mahoni

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Originally Posted by Mariosgh

Lol at folding pre. Setmining itself is huge +EV here. You need to earn ~ 1100 chips on average when you flop a set and the pot on flop is already over 800.

+1.

Also 40/20 isnt neccesarly passive as he raises every 5th hand.

Idk about flop... its that ****ty kinda flop that I go broke on. I mean look at this if you call here you gotta call brick turn if you call brick turn you kinda gotta call brick river. With that said I prolly end up calling both flop and turn and most likely river. But then again Im busto, so...

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